Amnesty Don

[zico20]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Let's at least be honest about the facts. Free trade means without restrictions. Protective tariffs are restrictions imposed to get a result that one party defines as "fair".

Consumers who have to pay those tariffs might argue about how "fair" they are. As would workers who lose their jobs because of those tariffs.

Trump will bring back more manufacturing jobs that will offset the job losses in those fields. NAFTA must be redone, we have a 68 billion dollar deficit with Mexico.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by zico20

Trump will bring back more manufacturing jobs that will offset the job losses in those fields. NAFTA must be redone, we have a 68 billion dollar deficit with Mexico.

So? Explain to me how that's a bad thing?

Just gonna leave this here..

https://youtu.be/zv5SiQpG6sg

[HalvOnHorseracing]

Putting tariffs on goods from Mexico is a bad idea for lots of reasons, most of which have been mentioned. The first three things I'd worry about are, (1) losing some of the imported fresh fruits and vegetables we get from Mexico in the winter, (2) losing oil from Mexico, our third biggest source of imported oil, and (3) prices for goods assembled in the maquiladora plants will rise, stressing consumer budgets in the U.S. I'm not convinced manufacturing plants would board up the Mexico plant and move to Texas. It's more likely the price of cars will just go up.

The tariff thing reminds me of how CHRB (and other tracks) do business. Let's raise the take and assume handle will stay the same.

I don't know if this is true or not, but one of my friends who lives in Mexico said all the Mexican eggplants are grown for export because Mexicans don't use them in their cooking. I don't think I ever saw anything with eggplant on a restaurant menu, and I ate at a lot of restaurants so he might be right.

It's also the case that Mexico will allow USDA to inspect farms that ship to the U.S., which I think is a pretty big deal. I see a lot more stuff from Chile coming north during the winter months, but I don't know how much I trust their produce, especially since USDA isn't as prominent in Chile.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

Putting tariffs on goods from Mexico is a bad idea for lots of reasons, most of which have been mentioned. The first three things I'd worry about are, (1) losing some of the imported fresh fruits and vegetables we get from Mexico in the winter, (2) losing oil from Mexico, our third biggest source of imported oil, and (3) prices for goods assembled in the maquiladora plants will rise, stressing consumer budgets in the U.S. I'm not convinced manufacturing plants would board up the Mexico plant and move to Texas. It's more likely the price of cars will just go up.

A lot of the US brand cars made in Mexico are not aimed at the US market. They tend to be smaller than most Americans want, and they are also aimed at the non-North American export market. Many other countries have lower tariffs on cars made in Mexico than would be the case for the same car made in the US.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Trump's offer also includes "limited" chain migration for all those newly minted Dreamers, supposedly limited to their "nuclear families".

Now that I disagree with. Dream on.
You get one scoop of ice cream, and that is all.
Who do you thing you are?

[HalvOnHorseracing]

Originally Posted by Tom

Now that I disagree with. Dream on.
You get one scoop of ice cream, and that is all.
Who do you thing you are?

That can't be a real picture.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

That can't be a real picture.

Never been to Wally World to take in some of the wonderful sights, eh?

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by zico20

Trump will bring back more manufacturing jobs that will offset the job losses in those fields.

The tariffs decline annually and go away in 4 years. Who is going to build a new factory in the US based on that?

A green-technology research firm estimates that tariffs could cost up to 88,000 U.S. jobs related to installing solar-power systems.


U.S. manufacturing of solar cells employed only about 1,300 people at its recent peak in 2012, according to the trade commission.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-a...-solar-panels/

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/stat...05748003459077

It is officially called Family Reunification according to the worthless left.

Get in step with your own crapdom.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

That can't be a real picture.

Yes. It is.

It is actually Chuck Schumer holding a golden staff beating children.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by Clocker

A lot of the US brand cars made in Mexico are not aimed at the US market. They tend to be smaller than most Americans want, and they are also aimed at the non-North American export market. Many other countries have lower tariffs on cars made in Mexico than would be the case for the same car made in the US.

If these US branded cars made in Mexico are not aimed for the US consumer what's your point? Not built for the American market, not made for the American market but you say Trump is clueless because of his position on ... tariffs? ... NAFTA?

If it's either of those two reasons, then there should be no big deal where they make and sell the cars now does it? The car manufacturer could also make any deal they want with any country they wish to do business with. Once again, that's simply eco 101.

Ford, GM, and others could sell all these cars to whomever they wish wherever they are. No one is stopping them, but you know that already.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

That can't be a real picture.

It wasn't a real picture, halvy ... there were only 4 scoops of ice cream.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing

That can't be a real picture.

Honest - it is!!!

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by reckless

If these US branded cars made in Mexico are not aimed for the US consumer what's your point? Not built for the American market, not made for the American market but you say Trump is clueless because of his position on ... tariffs? ... NAFTA?

I don't have a clue what this or the rest of your post means. I would point out that I said nothing about Trump or NAFTA in my post.

What I said was one reason companies like Ford build cars in Mexico for export outside of North America is because in most countries overseas the import duties on a Ford built in Mexico are lower than the import duties would be on the same car built in the US.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Clocker

I don't have a clue what this or the rest of your post means. I would point out that I said nothing about Trump or NAFTA in my post.

What I said was one reason companies like Ford build cars in Mexico for export outside of North America is because in most countries overseas the import duties on a Ford built in Mexico are lower than the import duties would be on the same car built in the US.

How is it that all these Trump supporters missed his comments on NAFTA and the TPP at Davos?

Suddenly he's way more open to these agreements.