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05-15-2016, 07:06 AM
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Easy way to check old racing tickets?
Is there an application that allows you to put in the track, race, bet and horses to see if you are a winner?
Just like some state lottery sites (put in numbers, tells you if any hit).
If there isn't one, seems like one would be popular and useful.
Thanks,
David
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05-15-2016, 08:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilzho
Is there an application that allows you to put in the track, race, bet and horses to see if you are a winner?
Just like some state lottery sites (put in numbers, tells you if any hit).
If there isn't one, seems like one would be popular and useful.
Thanks,
David
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MOST tracks (there may be exceptions) give you a year to cash actual paper tickets (like lottery tickets in that respect where you have a year to claim your prize). So if it's older than that you're out of luck. I imagine you can find results online of any races in the past year just by doing a search for results from that date. You'll have to go to the track to cash the ticket anyway (or you could mail it in) so you could just put into a machine when you're there.
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05-15-2016, 09:01 AM
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BRIS and EB have charts back to 1992.
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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05-15-2016, 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by castaway01
You'll have to go to the track to cash the ticket anyway (or you could mail it in) so you could just put into a machine when you're there.
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This is your best bet, especially if you have tickets with a lot combos that would be a pain in the butt to figure out and potentially error prone. Just find yourself a secluded self service machine and run them all through.
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05-15-2016, 10:14 AM
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It does vary by track so check that first. Some tracks are a year from issue. I think NYRA is until April 1 of the year after the year of issue.
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05-15-2016, 03:13 PM
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Thanks.
I asked the teller and I do have a year from when they are purchased.
Here's the issue. I collect used tickets when I'm at the track.
They are from my track, OTB, etc.
THe clerks said that the self service kiosks cannot determine if they are winners Only the tellers can with certain machines.
I find this to be BS, so I thought I would ask to see.
I don't mind looking up the races to see if they are winners, just thought there might be an easier way.
I do think the self service machines can do this, maybe just not the ones where I am.
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05-15-2016, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilzho
... used tickets ...
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I love it when a phrase comes to my vernacular.
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05-15-2016, 05:59 PM
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Ok lost drunken tickets. Lol
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05-15-2016, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilzho
I do think the self service machines can do this, maybe just not the ones where I am.
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The machines I've used in the past, if you feed it a losing ticket, it spits it out. If you feed in a winner, it credits you with balance. I can't see why that won't work.
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05-15-2016, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilzho
Thanks.
I asked the teller and I do have a year from when they are purchased.
Here's the issue. I collect used tickets when I'm at the track.
They are from my track, OTB, etc.
THe clerks said that the self service kiosks cannot determine if they are winners Only the tellers can with certain machines.
I find this to be BS, so I thought I would ask to see.
I don't mind looking up the races to see if they are winners, just thought there might be an easier way.
I do think the self service machines can do this, maybe just not the ones where I am.
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pretty sure teller is full.of it when it comes to putting tix in a machine to check
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05-15-2016, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilzho
I collect used tickets when I'm at the track.
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From the Urban Dictionary:
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Stooper: A person who makes his living collecting discarded betting tickets at horse racing tracks, then going through them looking for winning slips that were accidentally thrown away.
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05-16-2016, 12:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilzho
THe clerks said that the self service kiosks cannot determine if they are winners Only the tellers can with certain machines.
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Both types of machines are connected to the same system. The idea that one could tell if you a ticket is a winner/loser while another can't is patently false.
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05-16-2016, 03:00 AM
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I agree, both self-service and teller machines scan the same way. I used to double check tickets in my wallet at the end of the day or the next week, or the next month that way. Once, when the bar code was damaged, a teller manually entered the alphanumeric code at his machine.
That got me thinking about the old days which were at the infancy of my race track going days. How did they check and cash tickets before machines that scanned bar codes?
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05-16-2016, 05:42 AM
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Thanks everyone, I will continue to be a Stooper
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05-16-2016, 08:37 AM
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kevb, back in the day cashing was split from selling, and there were dedicated cashing windows separate from selling windows (far fewer, of course, but that's how you got the first inkling that this is a tough game). Not only that, but there was also a separation between "same day" cashings and "previous day (outs)" cashings.
Each cashier had a printout of the results given to him after each race and was responsible for authenticating the tickets presented to him (date, race no., code on the ticket, etc.) to make sure he wasn't cashing a "pigeon" (counterfeit ticket). It was all done manually. The Previous Days cashier had access to the "outs book" or the printouts of all prior days results going back as long as necessary. It would take some time for him to look stuff up, so leaving the track with winning tickets was not as seamless as it is today.
ilzho, you are persona non grata at every track in the country, especially by people who maintain the tote equipment. Picking up wet, soiled, and mangled tickets and running them through the SAM's is the single biggest reason for the equipment to fail. At my wagering facility, you would be "escorted" off the premises as a stooper.
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