Religion III

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

You are terribly confused.
You said Backbone, gutless? Maybe, but you are incomprehensible
and also....... btw way gone.

I guess I will never learn who I am dealing with. Oh well

I meant to say I know you never drew...what I asked you to draw. Draw one like mine that is in 896.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

I meant to say I know you never drew...what I asked you to draw. Draw one like mine that is in 896.

I chose to ignore you

In did say I can't guarantee I would respond to your rants.

[hcap]

This is the graphic I posted. As I said

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

This is the graphic I posted. As I said

And tell us: What does Time cause, exactly? (And before you respond, look up the definition of the verb form of "cause".)

In short, the chart you posted was drivel.

[hcap]

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...&postcount=711

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

But as I posted. The casual chain must include our memory and understanding of causality we learn from the physical world. Specifically we observe without any doubt, cause always precedes effect. The abstraction,.... imagining placing effect before cause requires the concept of cause and effect first.

So the casual chain MUST INCLUDE THE ORIGINS OF OUR CONCEPT OF CAUSALITY.

I drew a diagram starting at that internalization of cause and effect, or our understanding of the order of events. We remember about batting a ball by constructing a reproduction of what we observe in the physical world. We have both a "body" memory by playing, and a more intellectual memory by watching. And as anyone who has ever played, knows the "body" memory is what separates a good player from a poor or mediocre player.

No matter how we order it mentally, hitting the ball in our abstractions: whether effect before cause, or cause before effect, examining it criticality INCLUDING it's origins in mirroring the physical......... CAUSE always comes before EFFECT, even in our abstentions.

If we were to look at the order of events within our intellects by diagramming out the real order, including how the physical world is mirrored within, and what may happen,.......even if we wish that order to happen opposite the physical. The diagram shows how the REVERSE abstraction or imagination of.... effect before cause, still derives from, CAUSE first.

Your very own words destroy your "causal arrow of TIME"!!! In fact, it contradicts your "arrow of time. Your whole purpose for posting your graph can be summed up with these words:

I drew a diagram starting at that internalization of cause and effect, or our understanding of the order of EVENTS. (emphasis mine)

You're still conflating time with events that take place in time. Time and events are not synonymous terms. I didn't ask you to draw a graph showing the order of events or the flow of events, but rather the flow of time. My graphic image had nothing to do with events but everything to do with time, whereas yours has everything to do with events and nothing to do with time.

This is why you cannot refute my brilliant Fishing in the Stream time analogy. And it's also why you refuse to draw a graphic that shows the logical flow of time.

[hcap]

Everything to be said about this has been done here ad infinitum. I am not going down your self deluded rabbit holes anymore. You asked me about the graphic I posted.

It is posted again.

Cool graphic?

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Everything to be said about this has been done here ad infinitum. I am not going down your self deluded rabbit holes anymore. You asked me about the graphic I posted.

It is posted again.

Cool graphic?

No, it's not a cool graphic because it has to do with events, not time.

You steadfastly refuse to acknowledge two key distinctions pertaining to this discussions, which is why we can't make progress. You refuse to see the distinction between logical and chronological and you refuse to see the distinction between time and events.

In other words, you're hopelessly and willfully stuck on stupid.

[hcap]

Logical and chronological time is a tautology. We already discussed this

But go ahead and define them in upper boxcarian.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

Logical and chronological time is a tautology. We already discussed this

But go ahead and define them in upper boxcarian.

Dictionaries define both terms.

Also, I made the distinction between the two in my Fishing in the Stream time analogy. Logical has to do with the actual flow of time, whereas chronological concerns itself with events that occur in time.

[hcap]

LOGICAL AND CHRONOLOGICAL ARE DISTINCT.

Logical time and chronological time are not defined in any dictionary
Your fishing analogy is not analogous to anything but fishing.

I am not going any further.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

LOGICAL AND CHRONOLOGICAL ARE DISTINCT.

Logical time and chronological time are not defined in any dictionary
Your fishing analogy is not analogous to anything but fishing.

I am not going any further.

But the terms logical and chronological are defined.

And if my fishing analogy has nothing to do with time, then you should be able to easily refute it, opposed to summarily dismissing it.

[hcap]

That as far as I go.

[boxcar]

Originally Posted by hcap

That as far as I go.

Of course it is. This is your usual and expected punk-out.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Of course it is. This is your usual and expected punk-out.

Look you wanted to see the graphic I posted, insisting and confused it was about the casual arrow of time. I posted it and the post in which I used it.

I keep asking you for a totally new topic. You are obsessively fixated on your ridiculous backwards time theories and misunderstanding of causality.

Rover drop your bone.