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Old 10-20-2018, 12:27 PM   #46
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however, one can not ignore nor deny that for the majority God resides in all aspects of life including governmental and political philosophy. Our forefathers thought so, too: “In God we trust;” “...one nation under God;” etc.

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E pluribus unum was the motto of the Founders. One Out Of Many.

In God we trust was adopted in 1955.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:29 PM   #47
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It's high time that you start showing respect toward people who have beliefs and points of view that differ from yours. And, thank GOD that most do have different beliefs than what you incessantly, arrogantly spew!
Disagreeing with biblicas literalness and fundamentalism is not disrespecting religion.

You said you don't take Adam and Eve literally didn't you

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Although I do not believe in the literal existence of Adam and Eve, I do believe that the story was created to explain man’s first cognitive realization of sin (the nature of corruption, if you will), and that the concept of ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ evolved, as did man.
Btw, nor do I believe literally in sin.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:30 PM   #48
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It's high time that you start showing respect toward people who have beliefs and points of view that differ from yours. And, thank GOD that most do have different beliefs than what you incessantly, arrogantly spew!
One cannot respect others when one has no respect for one's self.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:35 PM   #49
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E pluribus unum was the motto of the Founders. One Out Of Many.

In God we trust was adopted in 1955.

Actually, In God We Trust first appeared when Congress passed the Act of April 22, 1864 during the Civil War. This legislation changed the composition of the one-cent coin and authorized the minting of the two-cent coin. The Mint Director was directed to develop the designs for these coins for final approval of the Secretary. IN GOD WE TRUST first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:39 PM   #50
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Locks are to discourage thief's. By themselves mechanical devices and identifying serial numbers have no means of discrimination between crooks and non crooks.

Or proves only the bank distrust wild-eyed self important blathering evangelicals like you.
"By themselves"? Did locks invent themselves?

As usual, you bring nothing to this discussion for the simple reason you cannot refute the Law of Distrust since this universal principle pervades all societies in all nations.

And by the way, if you think for a moment that you can open up a bank account without proving who you are, what would that make you?

Or go to doctor or dentist for the first time without I.D. and see how far that gets you?

Or try to get a business license without I.D.

Or try to get a marriage license without I.D.

Or when the IRS requires that your furnish proof of something, try telling them the burden of proof lies with them.

The Law of Distrust utterly destroys the stupid, feel good, self-aggrandizing theory that says that all men are basically good because if the world truly believed that we wouldn't have to put locks on our valuables, or have to prove who we are, or have to have passwords, or have to have background checks, or require proof of any our professional or scholastic credentials, or nations have to arm themselves to protect themselves against untrustworthy nations etc., etc., etc. That ignorant theory flies in the face of reality as we all know it.

But go head, bite off your snout to spite your face. Go choke on it, denier of reality!
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:41 PM   #51
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E pluribus unum was the motto of the Founders. One Out Of Many.

In God we trust was adopted in 1955.
I didn't say "Founders."

A 'forefather' is an ancestor; an 'ancestor' is a person from whom one is descended; forebear; progenitor; a 'progenitor' is a person or thing that first indicates a direction, originates something, or serves as a model; predecessor; precursor.
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Disagreeing with biblicas literalness and fundamentalism is not disrespecting religion.

You said you don't take Adam and Eve literally didn't you

Btw, nor do I believe literally in sin.
And because you don't believe in sin, you once again fly in the face all reality as we know it. For the very essence of sin is lawbreaking; and all laws across all spectrum of societies in all nations exist because governing authorities presume everyone is a lawbreaker (and rightfully so, since every one of us at one time or another has broken some law -- no matter how trivial we may think it was at the time). The megabytes of irony is that human laws affirm the biblical doctrine of the universal Law of Sin.

I guess after you have no more nose to chomp on, Mr. Denier of Reality, you could start dining on one of your limbs?
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Actually, In God We Trust first appeared when Congress passed the Act of April 22, 1864 during the Civil War. This legislation changed the composition of the one-cent coin and authorized the minting of the two-cent coin. The Mint Director was directed to develop the designs for these coins for final approval of the Secretary. IN GOD WE TRUST first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin.
The point was the founders were not necessarily all religious literal Christians.

Many were deists Like Jefferson, Washington and Adams....

“Many of the leaders of the French and American revolutions followed this belief system, including John Quincy Adams, Ethan Allen, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Paine, and George Washington.”

Did they disrespect religion too?
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Disagreeing with biblicas literalness and fundamentalism is not disrespecting religion.

You said you don't take Adam and Eve literally didn't you

Btw, nor do I believe literally in sin.
I said "respect toward PEOPLE."

Spewing "wild-eyed self important blathering evangelicals like you." is certainly disrespecting the PERSON(s) holding certain beliefs. Your view of religion has nothing to do with it.
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And because you don't believe in sin, you once again fly in the face all reality as we know it. For the very essence of sin is lawbreaking; and all laws across all spectrum of societies in all nations exist because governing authorities presume everyone is a lawbreaker (and rightfully so, since every one of us at one time or another has broken some law -- no matter how trivial we may think it was at the time). The megabytes of irony is that human laws affirm the biblical doctrine of the universal Law of Sin.

I guess after you have no more nose to chomp on, Mr. Denier of Reality, you could start dining on one of your limbs?
You have the perfect opportunity to engage new believers on the dead religious thread.

Your arguments do not belong here.
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:57 PM   #56
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You have the perfect opportunity to engage new believers on the dead religious thread.

Your arguments do not belong here.
Dictators don't belong anywhere here, either.
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Dictators don't belong anywhere here, either.
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I said "respect toward PEOPLE."

Spewing "wild-eyed self important blathering evangelicals like you." is certainly disrespecting the PERSON(s) holding certain beliefs. Your view of religion has nothing to do with it.
Hcap's initial reply in this thread was in post #19...to which boxcar responded in post #22. Which reply do you deem to be the more "respectful"? How can boxcar deserve "respect" from the opposing views here...when he has never shown such respect HIMSELF?
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You have the perfect opportunity to engage new believers on the dead religious thread.

Your arguments do not belong here.
You're the one who brought up sin.
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IN GOD WE TRUST first appeared on the 1864 two-cent coin.
Not a coincidence. On his best day, what God is worth.
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