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View Poll Results: Which of these best describes you as a player on horse retirement?
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I would support a 1/10% takeout increase to help horses
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18.82% |
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I would support a small data charge/parking/admission to help horses
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8.24% |
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I would support both the above
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14.12% |
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I don't care about the issue, the industry should fix it itself
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3.53% |
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I care about the issue, but the industry should fix it itself
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55.29% |
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01-18-2011, 11:22 PM
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@TimeformUSfigs
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Bettors pay enough already. They shouldn't be forced to pay one additional cent. If someone chooses to donate, great, but no forced donations.
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01-19-2011, 11:16 AM
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Location: Oklahoma City
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Would you have any problem with an opt in/opt out switch on the ADW account setup page to facilitate a contribution like this? Or, on the self-service auto-tote machine an extra button to press at the end of the wager ticket?
I know, there is nothing stopping anyone from clicking through one of those many advertisements for horse rescue and contributing that way.
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01-19-2011, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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If any of the organizations are charitable organizations it would be better for the bettor to donate directly to receive the possible deduction on their taxes.
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01-19-2011, 11:42 AM
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Location: Toronto
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The thread and the poll kind of went where I thought it would. Some nice comments here. The way I take it is - we see nothing from racing on this but lip service, and it is and has been a problem for some time. Even if we have some way to contribute and want to, it will be messed up.
Look at slots jurisdictions. They write a slots deal where half goes to purses and half goes to profits - all a gold mine to those two stakeholders (and with higher purses, goes higher vet bills for them, and higher bloodstock prices for breeders). Where is the 1% to take care of the increased amount of horses that are being brought into the world because of this inflation? Where is the 1% for lower rake?
All very short-sighted, in my opinion, and emblematic that without someone guiding the ship and doing the right thing, these places are left (with kind people who work their ass off) to others and there is simply not enough of them to do the job right.
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07-01-2011, 06:12 PM
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Location: Oklahoma
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I know this is an old thread, voted the last option. dont tracks already take out enough? esp california lol
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07-02-2011, 02:40 AM
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I voted that too... c
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07-02-2011, 10:14 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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1% of every purse award taken out for this.
2% of every sale price.
5% of every claim.
10% of every graded stake purse. Black type = breeding incentive = more problem.
Not a penny from the pools.
I will decide when and how much I contribute to clean up the mess the industry has created for itself.
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07-02-2011, 03:42 PM
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I'm not in favor of any of the mandatory options.
Every time I win a race (as an owner) or cash a large ticket (as a player) I donate to one (or both) of the following:
Remember Me Rescue
Burleson, TX
Mt Hope Horse Rescue
Manheim, PA
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07-02-2011, 06:56 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
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I give quarterly to the local Maryland Rescue outfit. I also on an irregular basis give to animal shelters and the Bear rescue in Tn. But I have to agree that owners and the industry need to be taking care of the this problem.
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07-02-2011, 07:17 PM
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Let's go Reds!!
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by forced89
I'm not in favor of any of the mandatory options.
Every time I win a race (as an owner) or cash a large ticket (as a player) I donate to one (or both) of the following:
Remember Me Rescue
Burleson, TX
Mt Hope Horse Rescue
Manheim, PA
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 Thats awesome!!
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07-02-2011, 07:59 PM
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
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The hell with the horse, what we need is a retirement home for horse players.
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07-02-2011, 08:05 PM
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In my opinion, the tracks and owners should take care of it. The issue with tracks doing it is that the cost will mosty likely be passed on to the bettors in some way. In a perfect world, owners would make sure all of the horses they own have safe homes on their own. Since it isnt a perfect world, the tracks should charge the owners a fee when they renew their license and have that money go to the retirement fund.
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03-07-2024, 02:09 PM
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C'est Tout
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Folks still voting in a 13yr old poll
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03-07-2024, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
Folks still voting in a 13yr old poll
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Damn.
Those 13 years went by really fast.
That said, I happen to know at least a handful of industry leaders saw this poll and the many other threads here on this site.
A select few took action, and the results of this poll were not lost on them.
Fast forward to present day and the industry in the US (while not perfect) does a much better job when it comes to thoroughbred retirement than it did when this poll was first posted.
Link to the Thoroughbred After Care Alliance site here:
https://www.thoroughbredaftercare.org/
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03-07-2024, 04:20 PM
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I say make voluntary contributions easy to make. I always tipped mutuel clerks when I went to the track or book, I have even tipped people that were cleaning ash trays in casinos when I had a nice score. After a good day betting the ponies I would have no problem stuffing a $20, $50 or $100 bill in a Salvation Army type kettle to help retired race horses on the way out the door.
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