Jobs data and Republican values?

[kenwoodallpromos]

LJB, you Kerry supporters are so deperate you are nowclaiming your values are Republican values? amd Kerry is now climing to be for lawsuits caps? LOL.
Since no one will believe you or Kerry, just keep doing vioolence against Bush's offices and illegal acts against Nader and maybe you will lose with more popular votes again, but i still say a Bush landslide.

[Derek2U]

Yeah & if you're right & bush wins big laura's gonna invite you
over to taste her biscuits.

[Secretariat]

Onto jobs again. What bothered me about the last jobs report was NOT only did it not keep up with the 150,000 necessary to stay even as ljb pointed out, it included another loss in manufacturing jobs.

Is our country going to continue to be Hamburger flippers and greeters at Walmart and temporary help workers. That's where most of those 96,000 were created. Check the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The great majority of these jobs were service and temporary help jobs which means generally nil or zero benefits.

We are so on the brink here as a country if another event occurs, both in terms of troop deployment capability, AND economically.

When one of the reasons Colin Powell gives for not going into the Sudan is we just don't have enough troops to do the job, it is an admission of just how overextended we are.

[Tom]

Don'r worry about Sudan, Sec...I am sure the UN will step up to the plate, and stop the slaughter without US troops.
That will happen, right?
Huh?
Wassat?
Didn't hear you.
Say again?
Besides, we have no authority to go to Sudan - same thing you say about Iraq...no WMD there.

[ljb]

As mentioned this topic was jobs and republican values. The following helps clarify the issues.

The issues are civil liberties, border security and fiscal responsibility, not as code words but as face-value issues.

Those are but three tips of the iceberg that signal the deep dissatisfaction many conservatives harbor against the president. Thus far, however, with Bush's political gurus telling him he's ahead and to just lay low and not make any major gaffes, he seems unwilling to recognize the problems on his right flank. Or he seems to have concluded that he doesn't need to address those concerns because the ineptitude of the Kerry campaign hasn't forced him to.

But the race appears to be tightening again. It's likely to remain tight until Election Day. Those dissatisfied conservative voters will become increasingly important, but it's going to be impossible for the president to pull them back in with hollow, last-minute promises.

Bush's problem is that true conservatives remember their history. They recall that in recent years when the nation enjoyed the fruits of actual conservative fiscal and security policies, a Democrat occupied the White House and Congress was controlled by a Republican majority that actually fought for a substantive conservative agenda.

History's a troublesome thing for presidents. Even though most voters don't take much of a historical perspective into the voting booth with them, true conservatives do.

Hmmm. Who's the Libertarian candidate again?

That would be Michael Badnarik if your conservative friends want to know.

[sq764]

LJB, it's really a shame how your mind thinks in only one way.. You're missing a good race but you interpret everything with fuzzy glasses..

If you can't see how hollow and baseless Kerry's promises are, you are either dense, oblivious or brainwashed..

[Tom]

...or John Kerry himself!

[ljb]

Sq764 and Tom,
I'm just trying to help you guys out here. It is obvious Bush is in a fantasy land and cannot see what is going on, I thought maybe you guys would like to know the truth.

[sq764]

You don't want the truth LJB; if you did, you would not be supporting Kerry.. Your hatred for Bush is making Kerry sound like a sane alternative for the presidency..

Just for one, block out your anti-Bush opinions and listen to John Kerry.. Just listen..

[ljb]

Sq764,
Sorry but this topic is about jobs and republican values. I just posted the data and a note regarding conservative values. If this data is anti-Bush, then perhaps you should consider your vote this year.
Basic Republican Values or Bush?
Think about it. Think about it long and then make the right choice. I have listed a few options you make the call.

[boxcar]

ljb writes:

Sorry but this topic is about jobs and republican values. I just posted the data and a note regarding conservative values. If this data is anti-Bush, then perhaps you should consider your vote this year.
Basic Republican Values or Bush?
Think about it. Think about it long and then make the right choice. I have listed a few options you make the call.

LJB, you flatter yourself; for you have yet authored any post that even vaguely resembled thought-provoking material -- something for any of us to think about for but a fleeting moment, let alone long and hard. You need to get over yourself in a hurry before you do irreparable harm to your body by allowing your brain to go into overload. With this observation out of the way, permit me to continue on with another one -- something for you to think about if you're able to breathe some life into your dead brain cells.

What you're asking Conservatives on this forum to do is vote against Bush because he's abandoned some true conservative values (which is true enough as far as this goes). However, this clearly implies that Kerry has ZERO going for him, otherwise you'd be asking us to vote for this WhackJob on the basis of his merits, instead of merely voting against Bush.

But even more importantly, and what is so laughable about your post and (this entire thread, I might add) is that we're supposed to believe that by voting Bush out of office, Kerry (the most liberal democrat in the Senate who continues to hide his voting record in that er..."illustrious" body) will somehow magically pick up Bush's slack in the conservative values area, and make us Conservatives happy campers. Even if enough conservatives bought into your foolsihness and became so disgruntled as to not cast any vote at all, they would relinquish their right to have any say in the voting process and, in essence, would be helping Kerry get elected.

In short, there is absolutely no incentive for any true conservative to either vote against Bush or to not vote at all; for the alternative to Bush is far, far too frightening in these dangerous times. At least I'm honest and straightforward enough to admit that when I vote, it won't be as much for Bush, as much as it will be against an unthinkable alternative. At least in Bush, I know what I'm stuck with; whereas with an Ultra Left-Wing Extremist Peacenik Socialist Pathological Liar like Kerry, there are quite possibly no limits as to have far to the Left he will want to move this country both in terms of foreign and domestic policies.

Have a good day, sir.

Boxcar

[kenwoodallpromos]

Jobs are just so-so, not bad enough to suit my dad or other radical libs.
My sample ballot says I can write in Nader so that is my guy in Ca.

[ljb]

From Boxcar:
LJB, you flatter yourself; for you have yet authored any post that even vaguely resembled thought-provoking material -
So the three or four paragraphs you responded to my note with required no thought ?
Must be something you cut and pasted from faux hey !

[Tom]

Anyone wnanna start a pool as when Ljb will ever post anyhting intelligent that is not just a bait at someone?
I say never.
Next?

[ljb]

Tom,
I just post the facts. If you consider that a "bait", perhaps you should open your mind a bit.