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07-11-2022, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
But the gave P Val chance after chance and he still came back the same way
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Hopefully they learned from that.
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07-11-2022, 08:12 PM
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He hasn't been charged.....innocent until proven guilty in this country is what I still believe in...let him ride...hopefully to the wire even if for a show placing...
Last edited by RunDustyRun; 07-11-2022 at 08:17 PM.
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07-11-2022, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RunDustyRun
He hasn't been charged.....innocent until proven guilty in this country is what I still believe in...let him ride...hopefully to the wire even if for a show placing...
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I generally agree with this principal but there are two factors that are important distinctions between racing and say a normal job, the welfare of other participants, and protecting the betting public.
If this was a first offence I could see it but given so many chances the side of caution seems to be more prudent.
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11-19-2022, 11:24 AM
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Desormeaux Resumes Riding Following Rehab, Suspension
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11-19-2022, 01:10 PM
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Off the top of my head, he's been suspended for making racist comments, domestic abuse, alcohol problems, and not riding out his mounts. But yeah, let's keep bringing him back.
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11-19-2022, 01:20 PM
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Off the top of my head, he's been suspended for making racist comments, domestic abuse, alcohol problems, and not riding out his mounts. But yeah, let's keep bringing him back.
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I guess it’s like the now-in-question HISA whip rule: 6 strikes and you’re out, 10 strikes and you’re really, really out.
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11-19-2022, 01:40 PM
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Again
How many chances can he get—-he should be given a suspension for life-one of the many reasons why our sport has a black eye-a real disgrace
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11-19-2022, 02:18 PM
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noticed a couple mounts Friday, but I didn't assess his performance.
Rooting for him
everyone deserves a 2nd chance or a 13?th chance... 
Biased, - childhood memories as an 8yo at Pimlico when he won apprentice. One of, if not the first jockey who I was aware of.
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11-19-2022, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cj
Off the top of my head, he's been suspended for making racist comments, domestic abuse, alcohol problems, and not riding out his mounts. But yeah, let's keep bringing him back.
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It's like Ty Cobb- a transcendent talent who has enormous personal issues and does a lot of bad stuff.
But then he can deliver rides like this:
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11-19-2022, 02:42 PM
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I planned my whole Preakness trip that year around betting Exaggerator and it worked out great. 
I could still do without Kent at this point.
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11-19-2022, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
noticed a couple mounts Friday, but I didn't assess his performance.
Rooting for him
everyone deserves a 2nd chance or a 13?th chance...
Biased, - childhood memories as an 8yo at Pimlico when he won apprentice. One of, if not the first jockey who I was aware of. |
Rooting for him to get his life together is one thing, putting him on horses is something else.
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11-19-2022, 03:04 PM
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I planned my whole Preakness trip that year around betting Exaggerator and it worked out great.
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I chunked it in on him when I saw that track condition.
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11-19-2022, 03:08 PM
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I chunked it in on him when I saw that track condition.
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I also just cashed a huge bet (at 1-5) when you replied with something about the track condition. 
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11-19-2022, 03:08 PM
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I also just cashed a huge bet (at 1-5) when you replied with something about the track condition. |
LOL. Best example of a modern mud freak.
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11-19-2022, 04:29 PM
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California… that explains it.
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