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Old 09-19-2009, 09:06 PM   #31
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Still no video...

Well if I can't see or hear the race, maybe I won't play...

I'm going on October 3rd
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Old 09-20-2009, 05:05 PM   #32
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Bad News, Stevie...

If you're from NJ, when you go to Belmont you won't be able to see the races live. They put you in a windowless room and show you the replay 3 minutes after the race is official. It's ok, though, they're mostly statebred races anyway.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:46 PM   #33
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This is turture...

I can see every damn track in the nation, but the one 12 miles away in New York I can't. Whats wrong with this picture??
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:58 PM   #34
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If you're from NJ, when you go to Belmont you won't be able to see the races live. They put you in a windowless room and show you the replay 3 minutes after the race is official. It's ok, though, they're mostly statebred races anyway.
That was pretty funny.

Don't forget you have to check a box saying you are from NJ as well.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:37 AM   #35
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So who's the one stopping the video from being streamed? The NYRA?
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Old 09-21-2009, 12:47 PM   #36
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NYRA is no longer allowing the live streaming of its signal according to an email I received. I also called the 4NJBets office around 1PM on 9/11, and I asked if the unavailability was permanent, and the answer was "pretty much so."

I have searched far and wide for ANY article that pertains to NYRA and 4NJBets, and have found nothing.

THE FOLLOWING IS ONLY MY OPINION:

I think that just because the NYRA signal was available at the racetracks, the NJSEA assumed it could stream the video over the Internet. Nassau OTB and Capital OTB did that and were accused of piracy, but the the matters were resolved with them, but no streaming video was ever restored. That may be the situation here. You can Google Nassau OTB or Capital OTB to find the articles.I have no idea if there are any negotiations going on to restore the signal for 4NJBets, but I have chosen to believe that the signal will never be restored. I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:20 PM   #37
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Is NYRA still streaming video to You Bet or Twinspires?
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:39 PM   #38
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Is NYRA still streaming video to You Bet or Twinspires?

TS shows the replays after the race is completed Tom. Same as NYRA site.
Nothing "live". Ridiculous
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:43 PM   #39
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TS shows the replays after the race is completed Tom. Same as NYRA site.
Nothing "live". Ridiculous
Twinspires is live, at last it was yesterday...maybe a 2 sec delay
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:35 PM   #40
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NYRA is no longer allowing the live streaming of its signal according to an email I received. I also called the 4NJBets office around 1PM on 9/11, and I asked if the unavailability was permanent, and the answer was "pretty much so."

I have searched far and wide for ANY article that pertains to NYRA and 4NJBets, and have found nothing.

THE FOLLOWING IS ONLY MY OPINION:

I think that just because the NYRA signal was available at the racetracks, the NJSEA assumed it could stream the video over the Internet. Nassau OTB and Capital OTB did that and were accused of piracy, but the the matters were resolved with them, but no streaming video was ever restored. That may be the situation here. You can Google Nassau OTB or Capital OTB to find the articles.I have no idea if there are any negotiations going on to restore the signal for 4NJBets, but I have chosen to believe that the signal will never be restored. I hope I'm wrong.
You can read per Jeffs earlier post -- NYRA is charging the ADWs extra to stream video. I imagine any ADW who is streaming live has paid NYRA whatever they are asking for the privilege.
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:06 PM   #41
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Twinspires is live, at last it was yesterday...maybe a 2 sec delay
It's live to non-NY residents, or last I thought I heard...
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It's live to non-NY residents, or last I thought I heard...
Yes forgot that out of state folks are fine watching NYRA but those of us that live in the state are screwed
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:26 PM   #43
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It's been cut off to HPI in Canada as well. There's a smart business model - they want me to bet their races, but won't let me watch. Well, they have gotten a grand total of $0 of my wagering dollars at Belmont (and the end of Saratoga).

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Old 09-21-2009, 07:26 PM   #44
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There's a smart business model - they want me to bet their races, but won't let me watch.
You have to wonder what kind of discussion NYRA has when they come up with such illogical decisions. Do you think someone pipes up "aren't we going to piss off the bettors and potentially decrease our handle?" I bet no one does.
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What kind of illogical decision restricts NYRA from showing the live video from their OWN RACES on their OWN WEBSITE?

Perhaps we should answer that question first.
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