NorCal maniac gunman

[FantasticDan]

Four people killed, at least 10 injured, seven different crime scenes. Opened fire on an elementary school..

https://www.apnews.com/daa2b18d6f554...ern-California

Brian Flint told the Record Searchlight newspaper in the city of Redding that his neighbor, whom he knows only as Kevin, was the gunman and that his roommate was among the victims. He said the shooter also stole his truck.

“The crazy thing is that the neighbor has been shooting a lot of bullets lately, hundreds of rounds, large magazines,” Flint said. “We made it aware that this guy is crazy and he’s been threatening us.”

[woodtoo]

Another awful shooting.

[FantasticDan]

Trump tweeted this late tonight in response to the shooting:

Twitter

He literally just copied and pasted.

http://m.sfgate.com/entertainment/th...g-12358244.php

[Parkview_Pirate]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Trump tweeted this late tonight in response to the shooting:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...55291569524736

He literally just copied and pasted.

http://m.sfgate.com/entertainment/th...g-12358244.php

Yup. Social media has lots of hazards, and looking dumb is easy to do, especially when multi-tasking. Hard to believe WH staff don't review/approve his tweets.

Perp grew dope on his lot, meth labs in the neighborhood. Sketchy details yet as to what may have set him off...

[Tom]

“We made it aware that this guy is crazy and he’s been threatening us.”

Could have been prevented.
Nice to use this tragedy only to insult Trump Dan.
Classy.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Trump tweeted this late tonight in response to the shooting:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...55291569524736

He literally just copied and pasted.

Yet another example of why people in high positions need to suppress the urge to comment on things they know nothing about.

"The Cambridge police acted stupidly" -- Obama

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by FantasticDan

Trump tweeted this late tonight in response to the shooting:

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...55291569524736

He literally just copied and pasted.

http://m.sfgate.com/entertainment/th...g-12358244.php

I get the feeling Trump has never actually tweeted in his entire life. I'm betting he pays someone to tweet for him.

Have we EVER seen him holding a cell phone? lol

[FantasticDan]

Originally Posted by Tom

Nice to use this tragedy only to insult Trump Dan. Classy.

Pretty sure it was Trump doing the insulting, not me..

[kingfin66]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I get the feeling Trump has never actually tweeted in his entire life. I'm betting he pays someone to tweet for him.

Have we EVER seen him holding a cell phone? lol

Nope, definitely not. He does not look very confident with it. The index finger is the dead giveaway. You gotta use the thumbs to be a confident cell phone user. That is for both typing and swiping

[davew]

the shooter made the guns himself - there needs to be laws against these 'ghost guns'

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...185746544.html

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by davew

the shooter made the guns himself - there needs to be laws against these 'ghost guns'

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...185746544.html

As a small machine shop owner I damn near died laughing at all the inaccuracies in that article. It is so full of crap it almost isn't worth commenting on. Just another anti gun liberal talking about things they know nothing about. An average Joe is not "manufacturing" a gun with a milling machine or 3D printer in a couple hours in their garage. They are buying parts and assembling them. I own a couple of those CNC machines they mentioned, your average person could not even figure out how to turn one on in a couple hours let alone make a gun with it.
Also making barrels is a very specialized process, the machines that do the rifling are highly specialized and usually customized for each model they produce.

[chadk66]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

As a small machine shop owner I damn near died laughing at all the inaccuracies in that article. It is so full of crap it almost isn't worth commenting on. Just another anti gun liberal talking about things they know nothing about. An average Joe is not "manufacturing" a gun with a milling machine or 3D printer in a couple hours in their garage. They are buying parts and assembling them. I own a couple of those CNC machines they mentioned, your average person could not even figure out how to turn one on in a couple hours let alone make a gun with it.
Also making barrels is a very specialized process, the machines that do the rifling are highly specialized and usually customized for each model they produce.

well these news people never let the facts get in the way of a good news piece

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

As a small machine shop owner I damn near died laughing at all the inaccuracies in that article. It is so full of crap it almost isn't worth commenting on. Just another anti gun liberal talking about things they know nothing about. An average Joe is not "manufacturing" a gun with a milling machine or 3D printer in a couple hours in their garage. They are buying parts and assembling them. I own a couple of those CNC machines they mentioned, your average person could not even figure out how to turn one on in a couple hours let alone make a gun with it.
Also making barrels is a very specialized process, the machines that do the rifling are highly specialized and usually customized for each model they produce.

The legal essence of an AR-15 is the lower receiver. This is the part that has a serial number and is subject to regulation. All other parts, including the barrel, are unregulated and readily available on the web. An unfinished lower receiver, called an 80% receiver, is not regulated and can be finished with the proper machinery. A CNC machine with software designed to finish an 80% receiver is available for about $2000.

I have no personal knowledge of this process. I was aware that 80% receivers were legal and unregulated. I was curious about ghost guns and this is the information I found on the web in a few minutes. As could anyone that wanted to build a gun.

This is an 80% receiver:

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by Clocker

The legal essence of an AR-15 is the lower receiver. This is the part that has a serial number and is subject to regulation. All other parts, including the barrel, are unregulated and readily available on the web. An unfinished lower receiver, called an 80% receiver, is not regulated and can be finished with the proper machinery. A CNC machine with software designed to finish an 80% receiver is available for about $2000.

I have no personal knowledge of this process. I was aware that 80% receivers were legal and unregulated. I was curious about ghost guns and this is the information I found on the web in a few minutes. As could anyone that wanted to build a gun.

This is an 80% receiver:

The article was very misleading, agree or disagree? Also please send a link to that $2,000 CNC machine that has software that you can program to finish a receiver. It either doesn't exist or that is a major case of false advertising.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

The article was very misleading, agree or disagree? Also please send a link to that $2,000 CNC machine that has software that you can program to finish a receiver. It either doesn't exist or that is a major case of false advertising.

The article looked like typical 3rd hand reporting. This one is a little better for main stream media:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/gun-restric...ry?id=51202654

I should have included links but forgot to. This is what appears to be an accurate description of the legality of making a gun.
https://www.ammoland.com/2014/11/atf...#axzz4yhhRL5Mr

This is a web site that sells a CNC machine that can mill an 80% receiver into a working model. The machine is listed at $1675 plus $100 shipping. It is not clear if other accessories are needed, so I just guessed around $2000.

https://ghostgunner.net/products/ghost-gunner