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MSG didn't air TVG at all this weekend, first time in years.
They did during the week......new contract?
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09-19-2022, 12:12 PM
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MSG didn't air TVG at all this weekend, first time in years.
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I noticed that also.
I'm one of the few people than never had a problem with TVG. I'm not looking for expert handicapping and betting. I just want to see all the races in a somewhat entertaining and organized way, but I'm not going to pay extra for it. I'll just use the track feeds.
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09-19-2022, 02:50 PM
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MSG didn't air TVG at all this weekend, first time in years.
They did during the week......new contract?
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Damn msg not good just like in the Chinese food I ordered wondered if they took it out or not 
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09-20-2022, 09:21 AM
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I noticed that also.
I'm one of the few people than never had a problem with TVG. I'm not looking for expert handicapping and betting. I just want to see all the races in a somewhat entertaining and organized way, but I'm not going to pay extra for it. I'll just use the track feeds.
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everyone bitches about everything.
the fox and nyra coverage is the best in the business yet you hear constant bitches about things.
i always liked tvg though i think they were the last large operating sport to embrace high definition broadcasts.
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09-20-2022, 09:58 AM
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If you don't bitch, they will never improve.
They probably won't anway, but we can bitch about that next week. 
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09-20-2022, 10:45 AM
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If you don't bitch, they will never improve.
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agree, though some of the criticism is not constructive.
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09-20-2022, 12:48 PM
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But deserved?
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09-20-2022, 01:38 PM
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No.
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09-20-2022, 04:27 PM
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None of it is?
How so?
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09-20-2022, 04:44 PM
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None of it is?
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Who said none of it? Greg said "agree, though some of the criticism is not constructive." to which you replied "but deserved?" and I said no.
Some of it is clearly not deserved.
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09-20-2022, 05:44 PM
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I just re-read the entire thread, and I don't see anything related to TVG that would not be fair game since they implemented the change. There were some positive comments, some negative, some speculation, but a pretty mild thread.
Criticism doesn't need to be constructive, but it does need to be acknowledged when it comes from customers. The product is now of lesser quality than before the change. As customers, that is all we need talk about.
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09-20-2022, 06:08 PM
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I just re-read the entire thread, and I don't see anything related to TVG that would not be fair game since they implemented the change. There were some positive comments, some negative, some speculation, but a pretty mild thread.
Criticism doesn't need to be constructive, but it does need to be acknowledged when it comes from customers. The product is now of lesser quality than before the change. As customers, that is all we need talk about.
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I think we all agree this instance of criticism was warranted, I was talking about the bigger picture.
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09-20-2022, 06:10 PM
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The product is now of lesser quality than before the change.
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And now they want me to pay for it. Of course that assumes I can even find it given the way the racing coverages bounces from channel to channel and even more so on major days. Sometimes I wind up with some sport that should be on ESPN The Ocho when it says "Racing" in the guide.  The whole thing is a bad joke. IMO track feeds from the ADWs are least bad way to go. On average, that's where you get the best detailed coverage of the paddock and other relevant info with the smallest time delay and you have complete control over what you want to watch and when. The only downside is that certain ADWs don't have certain tracks. So at times you may have to use more than one.
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09-20-2022, 06:23 PM
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Horse Racing has failed miserably in it's attempts to grow the game. Fan Duel/TVG coverage will only get worse. Covering 5 or more tracks just doesn't work at all. The Fox broadcast is 100 times better but how long before they start to change?
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09-20-2022, 06:59 PM
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I/m not looking at the big picture or the politics behind abything.
Simply, I am a customer who is getting a lesser product than I was two weeks ago.
I don't care about hi def, I had a screen that I watched races on and now that view is not as good, no chicklettes because of the stupi banner. obscured view of the finish at some tracks.
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