Well how about that...

[Fred Mertz]

Ms. Tiffani,


You have something to brag about and I'm very happy for you. I do verticals, so I doubt I'll have your kind of skill/luck. I'm happy to get a winner or two when I go to the track. I had two last time and an exacta putting me 20 bucks in the black.


Woo woo!

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by Fred Mertz

Ms. Tiffani,


You have something to brag about and I'm very happy for you. I do verticals, so I doubt I'll have your kind of skill/luck. I'm happy to get a winner or two when I go to the track. I had two last time and an exacta putting me 20 bucks in the black.


Woo woo!

Thanks Fred! Ethel is very lucky to have someone so kind! Sorry! I couldn’t resist!

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Denny

Who started calling it a "caveman" anyway?

Was it Crist? I really don't know, just wondering.

It's condescending of whoever did come up with the term..
Comparing people who use all their contenders to primitive cavemen.
Like they're not smart enough.

I won't use the term.

Oh brother...

[098poi]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Oh brother...

Good thing Steve Crist never ran for office. He'd lose the caveman vote! Or at least Denny.

[Gorrex]

Here is an example of an ABC bet from our system today to show the difference between a normal bet and structuring in that fashion. Most of the time I think its worth it as it gives a quick method to play your high probability combinations without going through them all one by one.

I didnt actually handicap this.. just kind of went off of morning line. Anyway.. if this was my ABC bet, I could cover all of the most probable combinations with $50 and add a bit extra to my "sure thing" A bet.




If I bet the same straight ticket, it would cost me $96 and I'd have a lot of combinations I really didnt think would be possible.





Flip side though.. all of those B and Cs come in.. I might be kicking myself for a few weeks.

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by Gorrex

If I bet the same straight ticket, it would cost me $96 and I'd have a lot of combinations I really didnt think would be possible.

I’m sure this will send the stats guys into a frenzy but I don’t go along with the theory that “this combination is not likely” because leg 1 Of the pick 4 has no bearing on leg 2 onto leg 3 and onto leg 4. If the horse is good enough to use on the ABC ticket, then he’s good enough to use on a base ticket or cave woman ticket. If the horse is THAT unlikely I argue the horse shouldn’t be used at all. Thus, turning your ticket from $96 to a much lower amount where you aren’t counting on one short priced horse.

Just because a 30-1 wins leg 1, it doesn’t make the 30-1 in the last leg any less likely than he would be normally. So why only use them with the “A” that is most likely a chalk?

I would understand this more in a tri or super where someone could say “if my A wins, horses 7,8,9 will hopefully not hit the ticket because of the race shape.

[Denny]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Oh brother...

Is TiffaniO a cave woman to you?

I think she's pretty smart instead.

[Denny]

Gorrex,
You might kick yourself for the rest of your life if the improbable happened and it was a huge pool that nobody had.
Just sayin'.

[Denny]

Originally Posted by TiffaniO

I’m sure this will send the stats guys into a frenzy but I don’t go along with the theory that “this combination is not likely” because leg 1 Of the pick 4 has no bearing on leg 2 onto leg 3 and onto leg 4. If the horse is good enough to use on the ABC ticket, then he’s good enough to use on a base ticket or cave woman ticket. If the horse is THAT unlikely I argue the horse shouldn’t be used at all. Thus, turning your ticket from $96 to a much lower amount where you aren’t counting on one short priced horse.

Just because a 30-1 wins leg 1, it doesn’t make the 30-1 in the last leg any less likely than he would be normally. So why only use them with the “A” that is most likely a chalk?

I would understand this more in a tri or super where someone could say “if my A wins, horses 7,8,9 will hopefully not hit the ticket because of the race shape.

[Denny]

Originally Posted by 098poi

Good thing Steve Crist never ran for office. He'd lose the caveman vote! Or at least Denny.

Do you know many cavemen?

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by Denny

Do you know many cavemen?

Fred and Barney

[TiffaniO]

Originally Posted by Denny

Do you know many cavemen?

And this guy...

[MadVindication]

Originally Posted by Afleet

I lost the last leg today of the pick 6@CD sitting on 5 for 5 when the ran second in the last; was live to ,,. I was excited to say the least, then the kick to the balls. I never saw the probable for the , but the was $8k+. Thought at the top of the lane he might steal it.

ticket cost $100.80

Ouch. A rush then a crush. At least it's more gentle when the tickets broken in the earlier of the races.

I had the 6 too. I like how the horses name is A Terrible Day. They were one of the shorter odds in the race IIRC. Thought it was the long shots I played that came in second.

Shitty that some people had the 6 of 6. I might start tackling some smaller jackpots on weekdays instead of the larger saturated ones. Not sure which track yet. Do you play the pick 6 a lot? At churchill or other tracks?

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by TiffaniO

.......Just because a 30-1 wins leg 1, it doesn’t make the 30-1 in the last leg any less likely than he would be normally. So why only use them with the “A” that is most likely a chalk?.......

True statement but you have to put the bet in before you know the 30-1 won the first leg. The question should be how likely would it be to have 30-1 and a 30-1 hit versus a 3-1 and a 30-1?

[PhantomOnTour]

Great job Tiffani!
A score to be proud of 👍