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03-16-2020, 04:10 PM
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Derby announcement to come 3-17 (Now set for 9-5)
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03-16-2020, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
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This is not good. "Timing" means they are going to try and run it. Greed is prevailing over public health.
(Perverse counterpoint- if moving the Derby means the Preakness gets moved and gets held at Laurel, thus completely screwing over the Baltimore city officials, I guess I might take some pleasure in that.)
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03-16-2020, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
This is not good. "Timing" means they are going to try and run it. Greed is prevailing over public health.
(Perverse counterpoint- if moving the Derby means the Preakness gets moved and gets held at Laurel, thus completely screwing over the Baltimore city officials, I guess I might take some pleasure in that.)
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I mean, they might run it in September. Don't see how that is bad, do you?
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03-16-2020, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cj
I mean, they might run it in September. Don't see how that is bad, do you?
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We have no idea if a big event can be held then. Also, we have no idea if prep races can be staged in the months prior.
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03-16-2020, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
This is not good. "Timing" means they are going to try and run it.
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
We have no idea if a big event can be held then.
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Obviously, if it can't be run at the date announced tomorrow, they will OBVIOUSLY reschedule again. 
maybe you should protest for racing to be immediately abolished until further notice
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03-16-2020, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Fischer
Obviously, if it can't be run at the date announced tomorrow, they will OBVIOUSLY reschedule again.
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I thonk it should be.
I guess what NYRA is doing is OK. But no way should there be a Kentucky Derby this year.
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03-16-2020, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
We have no idea if a big event can be held then. Also, we have no idea if prep races can be staged in the months prior.
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That is fine, but just saying it is re-scheduled for a much later date isn't going to hurt anything. If anything it helps the other tracks by doing it in advance.
If it turns out it still isn't feasible in the coming months, so be it. But there really is no point in just canceling it now.
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03-16-2020, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
I thonk it should be.
I guess what NYRA is doing is OK. But no way should there be a Kentucky Derby this year.
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So they should cancel it and tell their shareholders to piss off instead of prudently moving it to September, when any medical expert would tell you the virus should be a memory?
Whether you (or anyone) likes it or not, CDI is obligated to act in the best interests of their shareholders. We have all been hurt by that as racing fans in the past. In this case, they’re doing exactly the right thing.
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03-16-2020, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
So they should cancel it and tell their shareholders to piss off instead of prudently moving it to September, when any medical expert would tell you the virus should be a memory?
Whether you (or anyone) likes it or not, CDI is obligated to act in the best interests of their shareholders. We have all been hurt by that as racing fans in the past. In this case, they’re doing exactly the right thing.
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Exactly right. Who knows, it might turn out to be the best KY Derby ever.
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03-16-2020, 05:31 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
We have no idea if a big event can be held then. Also, we have no idea if prep races can be staged in the months prior.
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Of course they can, this is not rocket science.
Travers and Haskel might be preps this year, but it is nonsense to say it can't be done.
Probably be the best Derby ever.
More 3yos are better in the fall than in May.
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03-16-2020, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
So they should cancel it and tell their shareholders to piss off instead of prudently moving it to September, when any medical expert would tell you the virus should be a memory?
Whether you (or anyone) likes it or not, CDI is obligated to act in the best interests of their shareholders. We have all been hurt by that as racing fans in the past. In this case, they’re doing exactly the right thing.
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Everyone including shareholders are obligated to act in the best interest of public health. This is not optional- check the stock market right now; plenty of shareholders are losing money. No reason CDI shareholders should be exempt.
We have ZERO idea if the virus "should be a memory" in September. But also, September means preps in August and July. And we REALLY have zero idea that the virus should be a memory in July.
It isn't responsible to be scheduling events right now. No other sports league is doing this. As I said, if you want to have low level racing at Aqueduct with very few people present, and that can be done without exceeding CDC recommendations (no more than 10 people in any small space), that's fine. But the 2020 Derby should never happen.
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03-16-2020, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
So they should cancel it and tell their shareholders to piss off instead of prudently moving it to September, when any medical expert would tell you the virus should be a memory?
Whether you (or anyone) likes it or not, CDI is obligated to act in the best interests of their shareholders. We have all been hurt by that as racing fans in the past. In this case, they’re doing exactly the right thing.
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for someone who wants to yell fiduciary duty... if you're following a pecking order... I would visit the thread regarding the twinspires platform way before worrying about this years derby.
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03-16-2020, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dilanesp
But the 2020 Derby should never happen.
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One day, people are going to look back on all that has happened in the last week and just shake their heads at how high the nonsense meter went.
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03-16-2020, 06:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
Everyone including shareholders are obligated to act in the best interest of public health. This is not optional- check the stock market right now; plenty of shareholders are losing money. No reason CDI shareholders should be exempt.
We have ZERO idea if the virus "should be a memory" in September. But also, September means preps in August and July. And we REALLY have zero idea that the virus should be a memory in July.
It isn't responsible to be scheduling events right now. No other sports league is doing this. As I said, if you want to have low level racing at Aqueduct with very few people present, and that can be done without exceeding CDC recommendations (no more than 10 people in any small space), that's fine. But the 2020 Derby should never happen.
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CDI makes their year off Derby/Oaks weekend. If they cancel it, it would kill their purses for the whole year at every track they own.
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03-16-2020, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by azeri98
CDI makes their year off Derby/Oaks weekend. If they cancel it, it would kill their purses for the whole year at every track they own.
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I think it is fair to say that the NCAA makes its year off the NCAA Men's Division 1 Basketball Tournament. And yet- they canceled it. Because they understood, ultimately, that their obligation was to public health, not their own bottom line.
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