Sanctuary Cities

[sam4022]

Yet another illegal alien has murdered a US citizen after being deported several times while protected by the proud Sanctuary City of San Francisco. According to police 45 year-old Francisco Sanchez, an undocumented immigrant and multiple felon, who had been deported five (5) times to Mexico, committed the shooting on Wednesday of Kate SteinleI on a city pier in San Francisco, the king of the Sanctuary Cities.



I have several questions in regard to these beacons of freedom. Sanctuary city is a term given to a city that follows certain practices that protect illegal immigration by not allowing municipal funds or resources to be used for the enforcement of federal immigration laws. Police or municipal employees are banned from inquiring about an individual's immigration status.



1. Since federal law is ignored with respect to illegal immigration by not providing municipal support to execute it could the same be done for any city opposed to say, gay marriage or for that matter any federal law?

2. Why are decent Americans ignoring the law to assist politicians in their effort to retain and/or acquire future voters?

3. If we don’t protect our borders why maintain passport requirements? Let’s open up the whole country to everyone.

4. Why do some folks, Republican and Democrat, denigrate the messenger and not the criminal? (Like the good ol’ boys at NASCAR or Macys or former grab the spotlight regardless of issue governors.)

5. Can Federal funds be withheld from Sanctuary Cities for non-enforcement?



I’m an Independent who, in the past, has voted more Democrat than Republican but although it’s a tough choice and I’m sure to be called a racist or some other low-life, I’ll never vote for a party candidate that uses lies, innuendo and name calling as part of their campaigns. If nothing else Trump will force the Republicans to discuss all issues but on the Democratic side will Hillary even respond?



This is for sure NOT my father’s Democratic party.

[Tom]

Not everyone who lives here is an America, despite what their papers say.
San Fran is a disgusting POS city and should be boycotted.

Next time they have an earthquake, let Mexico come help them. They are not entitled to the services of the US, paid for by real American tax dollars.

Since California is not responsible enough to stop it, the whole state should be denied any Federal services at any level.

We do not need 50 or 57 states We should be at least suspend services to any the refuse to act American.

Civil war in reverse - it is time to kick states OUT of the union for being run by traitors. And the local government of SF is without a doubt made up of traitors. Some need to face a firing squad.

[DJofSD]

Neither party is like the party our father's knew.

When was the last time you heard a Republican talk about law and order? Family values? Independence? Freedom? Choice?

[sam4022]

Trump?

[boxcar]

Hate to say this but Trump should make hay out of this tragedy. He's been telling everyone how many criminals are being imported to the U.S. from Mexico. And I did use the right word here -- IMPORTED. The federal government by not enforcing the laws on the books is implicitly importing these people to the U.S. The Feds are giving Mexico, as well as other Hispanic countries, the green light to export all their trash to our country.

[GaryG]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Hate to say this but Trump should make hay out of this tragedy. He's been telling everyone how many criminals are being imported to the U.S. from Mexico. And I did use the right word here -- IMPORTED. The federal government by not enforcing the laws on the books is implicitly importing these people to the U.S. The Feds are giving Mexico, as well as other Hispanic countries, the green light to export all their trash to our country.

He doesn't need to. His remarks have been so well publicized that this is patently obvious to all who can read. No use in deporting them if we lack a fortified border. I would prefer widening the Rio Grande and stocking it with piranhas.

[LottaKash]

Originally Posted by DJofSD

Neither party is like the party our father's knew.

When was the last time you heard a Republican talk about law and order? Family values? Independence? Freedom? Choice?

We have only one party now, It is the People's Party...

A little red-handbook should be forthcoming ...

[TJDave]

Originally Posted by sam4022

Can Federal funds be withheld from Sanctuary Cities for non-enforcement?

The federal government has adopted the same agenda.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...d8a_story.html

The Obama administration has begun a profound shift in its enforcement of the nation’s immigration laws, aiming to hasten the integration of long-term illegal immigrants into society rather than targeting them for deportation, according to documents and federal officials.

In recent months, the Department of Homeland Security has taken steps to ensure that the majority of the United States’ 11.3 million undocumented immigrants can stay in this country, with agents narrowing enforcement efforts to three groups of illegal migrants: convicted criminals, terrorism
threats or those who recently crossed the border.

While public attention has been focused on the court fight over President Obama’s highly publicized executive action on immigration, DHS has with little fanfare been training thousands of immigration agents nationwide to carry out new policies on everyday enforcement.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by sam4022

5. Can Federal funds be withheld from Sanctuary Cities for non-enforcement?

Certainly not by an administration that uses prosecutorial discretion as its major tool for enacting and implementing policy.

[Tom]

In other words, Obama will allow murderers and rapists to stay here and screw the taxpayers.

I say, let all the foreign rapists and murders be brought the gates of the White house and forcibly allowed to enter this POS's home.

Let YOUR wife and daughters face the scum YOU have allowed to stay here and threaten ours, you worthless traitor.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by boxcar

Hate to say this but Trump should make hay out of this tragedy. He's been telling everyone how many criminals are being imported to the U.S. from Mexico. And I did use the right word here -- IMPORTED. The federal government by not enforcing the laws on the books is implicitly importing these people to the U.S. The Feds are giving Mexico, as well as other Hispanic countries, the green light to export all their trash to our country.

His statement about Mexicans painted with far too broad of a brush and will not help the GOP cause. You don't describe Mexicans as "they're rapists...they're criminals."

Does this mean I support Obama's policies on illegal immigrants? No. Do I support incarnating violent, criminal illegals? Absolutely.

[thaskalos]

Are the "imported Mexican criminals" more inclined to commit a heinous crime in this country than the American-born natives?

[DJofSD]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Are the "imported Mexican criminals" more inclined to commit a heinous crime in this country than the American-born natives?

Looking at the demographics of those in prison, yes.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Originally Posted by DJofSD

Looking at the demographics of those in prison, yes.

Please provide some stats

[MONEY]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Are the "imported Mexican criminals" more inclined to commit a heinous crime in this country than the American-born natives?

This question doesn't make sense.
Are you saying that since we already have criminals in our country that it is OK to bring in more criminals from other countries to further victimize our citizens.