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08-14-2020, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
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I can't pick that statement apart, in fact I think if we adopted SWEDEN's strategy we might have hit those numbers or exceeded them. Not that SWEDEN's strategy was really wrong, but really wrong for us. It is more than obvious some officials are not able to step up when we really need them to be effective instead of power hungry fools for politics.
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08-14-2020, 07:36 PM
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#6692
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Originally Posted by fast4522
I can't pick that statement apart, in fact I think if we adopted SWEDEN's strategy we might have hit those numbers or exceeded them. Not that SWEDEN's strategy was really wrong, but really wrong for us. It is more than obvious some officials are not able to step up when we really need them to be effective instead of power hungry fools for politics.
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You make zero sense.
WE ARE DOING SWEDEN'S STRATEGY....RIGHT NOW! We delayed it for 4-5 months, which was the height of stupidity...
Is everyone brain dead? Serious question.
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08-14-2020, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
You make zero sense.
WE ARE DOING SWEDEN'S STRATEGY....RIGHT NOW! We delayed it for 4-5 months, which was the height of stupidity...
Is everyone brain dead? Serious question.
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SWEDEN'S STRATEGY is nothing close to this. To be in effect "SWEDEN'S STRATEGY" we would have had to do from the start, end to end identical to which this is not. Sweden does not have as many bona fide self serving officials per square mile.
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08-14-2020, 10:04 PM
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Whatever you guys say. Keep denying reality.
The reality is...Sweden's COVID-19(84) associated illnesses and deaths are largely behind them at this point in time.
BUT, we LOCKED DOWN for MONTHS (when it was only supposed to be a few weeks at the start)....thus we ONLY DELAYED THE INEVITABLE...which is happening now...
It's very simple.
But people, instead, wanted to take every political advantage they could....thus we're getting what we got...which is nothing but a giant box of everlasting shite.
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08-15-2020, 02:28 AM
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08-15-2020, 03:20 AM
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#6697
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Originally Posted by Tom
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You have a memory like a sieve.
As I told you one hundred times, that was an early estimate without any mitigation efforts. Maybe you should shove your bananas where the sun don't shiner and go back to school
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08-15-2020, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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Just like the chimp, you too and your hangers on, have memories liked a leaky sieve.
My post #6683...
Sweden should be compared to other Scandinavian countries. Where population density, health care systems, and the predominance of single occupant homes are similar, but lock down and mitigation were totally different.
Sweden is almost 10x worse
Cumulative number of coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths in the Nordic countries (as of August 10, 2020)
Number of deaths
Sweden 5,766
Denmark 620
Finland** 333
Norway 256
To use a "boxcar".....
Why didn't you bring up Brazil or Mexico, where lock downs were minimal and they are much worse than here?
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Last edited by hcap; 08-15-2020 at 03:28 AM.
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08-15-2020, 03:49 AM
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Update.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Worldwide
Coronavirus Cases:
21,368,534
Deaths:
763,572
United States
Coronavirus Cases:
5,476,266
Deaths:
171,535
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08-15-2020, 09:35 AM
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Coronavirus in Europe: Infections surge in France, Germany and Spain
It's not just the U.S., whenever a place "opens up," cases go up. Germany, France, Spain, Greece even Italy. Not Sweden because they haven't opened their borders yet.
Led mainly by young people.
Coronavirus Infections surge in Europe
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08-15-2020, 11:04 AM
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#6701
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
You have a memory like a sieve.
As I told you one hundred times, that was an early estimate without any mitigation efforts. Maybe you should shove your bananas where the sun don't shiner and go back to school
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Maybe YOU should try to post like a civilized adult and stop with the suspicious obsession with butts.
But that is the point - with no mitigation. So you have one of two options now - who is responsible for the mitigation - Trump of the states. If it is Trump, then he did a GREAT job. If it is the states, they are doing a terrible job now as the virus is on the rise, as you point out 3-400 times a day.
So munch on that for awhile, Murtle.
Can't have it both ways, dah-ling!
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08-15-2020, 11:08 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hcap
Update.
United States
Coronavirus Cases:
5,476,266
Deaths:
171,535
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Caused by:
1. States fumbling the ball
2. Uncontrolled demonstrating, protesting, rioting and looting
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08-15-2020, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Caused by:
1. States fumbling the ball
2. Uncontrolled demonstrating, protesting, rioting and looting
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Well I don't see change in that, liberal policy is the number one contributing factor.
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08-15-2020, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
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That could have never been tried here, no matter left wing or right wing. Whatever the president's affiliation he would have been destroyed by local governments like New York, California, and other densely populated areas. Scandinavian countries and Sweden are not even close to our urban density. Everyone has to suck it up, In 1918, 1919, and 1920 these United States had much less people during the 1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus). They even had a baseball World Series even if it was fixed.
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08-15-2020, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fast4522
That could have never been tried here, no matter left wing or right wing. Whatever the president's affiliation he would have been destroyed by local governments like New York, California, and other densely populated areas. Scandinavian countries and Sweden are not even close to our urban density. Everyone has to suck it up, In 1918, 1919, and 1920 these United States had much less people during the 1918 Pandemic (H1N1 virus). They even had a baseball World Series even if it was fixed.
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You really don't get it, do you?
Whatever YOU THINK you might have PREVENTED by LOCKING DOWN for MONTHS...you're GETTING NOW. Period. End of story.
It doesn't matter. Period.
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