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Old 08-07-2020, 02:48 AM   #6391
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Okay my "1Mile+" spot play had 1 winner in 16 tries. Not Good.

I did win my head-to-head contest @ Horse Tourneys--my opponent had a rough day. I hit 3 small winners and a $6.00 place horse (at WB) for the lucky win.

Was looking through pp's tonight...Maidens dropping into Md Claimers, in particular. For kicks I came up with these--we'll see what happens.

1st time dropping
MDN TO MDN-CLAIMER
W/POS RIDER SWITCH


*SAR
4TH KEMBA 10-1 ---gutierrez to rosario
10TH TESORINA 5-1 ---baze to ortiz
10TH MORALITY CLAUSE 15-1 ---davis to franco

*BTP
3RD MADS 5-1 ---saez to ouzts
3RD SNAPY TWELVES 8-1 --court to court

*DM
2ND QUIET SANCTUARY 15-1 --franko-angeles to cedillo
3RD AWESOME SCORE 5-1 --garcia to hernandez
6TH FOXBOROUGH 5-1 --velez to hernandez
6TH EXHALTING 5-1 --espinosa to cedillo

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Old 08-08-2020, 01:21 AM   #6392
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NICE HITS THERE:

KEMBA $7.20 , MADS $7.20 , AWESOME SCORE $9.20
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Old 08-09-2020, 02:14 AM   #6393
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--Actually this is Mark Cramer's Maiden Spot Play. I've seen it before...but happened to be reading an article by Dick Mitchell, who had this to say:

"Mark Cramer uncovered a profitable subset of overlay mutuels. When a drop in class from maiden special weight to maiden claiming is accompanied by a positive rider change to a leading jockey, head to the windows. It's truly a dynamite sign of excellent trainer intent and a hot angle on its own."

This factor alone has made a flat-bet profit for the past two decades. It even works in the open claiming divisions. The class drop/jockey switch angle, especially in combination with improving form as measured by ability times or new found early speed, signals a horse on the verge of breaking its maiden."


*I added a 5-1 ML minimum to qualify

The article also contains Cramer's 2nd-time starter spot play.

https://www.cynthiapublishing.com/Mi...dm20000814.htm
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:11 AM   #6394
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Greg - Just ordered Exotic Bets to give it a spin
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Old 08-09-2020, 01:58 PM   #6395
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Just sent the link to your email, Phil. I think you'll enjoy it--thank you!

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Old 08-09-2020, 05:34 PM   #6396
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Got it, thanks. Just downloaded and will fiddle around with it at Del Mar
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Old 08-09-2020, 07:22 PM   #6397
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Hey Greg - Just started fiddling around with it and it's already paid for itself, in 5th race at DMR I boxed the V-Power selections 1-4-5 for $1, came in 1-4, $1 exacta paid $50.

Gonna take a shot at late pick-4.
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:27 PM   #6398
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PRESQUE-TOP-2-PLATINUM-POWER 8-11

Early/Late double have potential here, along with maybe a couple pick-3's.

Good luck

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Old 08-11-2020, 08:38 PM   #6399
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Huge hit in 5th race at Presque Isle, Serve Revenge Cold, Greg's #1 Power horse 8-1 ML went off at 43-1, paid $88.60 . . . $29.80 . . . $12.80
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Old 08-11-2020, 08:50 PM   #6400
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--Well damn....thought I was gonna get skunked there @ Presque today. Only had two Top Platinum Power winners--but one horse in the 5th, SERVE REVENGE COLD paid a sweet $88.60. Bris Prime Power has a higher win %, but Platinum Power has a higher ROI. You'll never see a Top Bris Prime Power horse pay anywhere near $88.

I didn't go back and check--but I believe appx 8 of the last ten times I've posted the Top Power picks--they have shown a flat-bet profit just blindly betting 'em all. (Anyone that has time is welcome to go check that)


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Old 08-12-2020, 03:11 AM   #6401
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1 FROM HORSE TO WATCH LIST

I must have missed your post, Phil--or we posted simultaneously.

**Had my eye on this horse awhile...

YACHT (#2, 12/1 ML) is entered Thistledown on Wednesday, August 12th, 2020 in Race 8.


...and here is another Mark Cramer- Maiden 1st time claimer\Pos Rider Switch @ Sar

10th Race MIA BEA STAR 8-1 -cancel to j ortiz

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Old 08-14-2020, 06:52 PM   #6402
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DEL MAR TOP-2 PLATINUM POWER 8-14

Swear I thought I posted this a couple hours ago...I must have forgotten to hit "submit"
See if we can continue the daily profit Platinum Power streak



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Old 08-14-2020, 07:25 PM   #6403
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ARLINGTON RACE 2 - PLATINUM POWER #2

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Old 08-14-2020, 07:28 PM   #6404
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Awesome!!

the best part is hitting that early ...

now you know your going to be up the rest of the plays
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Old 08-15-2020, 12:36 AM   #6405
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A Platinum user asked in email--what's the best way to show a profit? I get asked this often. I'm positive the way to profit in this game is to specialize in certain tracks--and distances.

I mentioned earlier I was studying 1mile races...looking for a horse with an early speed advantage. If you can find one at 8 or 10 to 1 ML, you may have a good chance to cash a ticket. Especially if this particular horse is near the top power for the race.

Another way to hit some of the biggest payoffs...is to click on "Top-2 Power" and look for horses 8-1ML, or better. Personally I use 10-1 as a minimum, if there are 2 or 3 at 10-1 or higher.

Using this method--the main drawback (as with all longshots), is the very real chance of an extended losing streak. If you can psychologically deal with that...and you've wagered carefully--you have a shot. I'm not talking about half-dozen races losing streak-those are common-I mean 20-30 race streaks. It's easy to lose faith in your methods when you've done nothing but lose for a couple weeks.

There was only 1 play @ DelMar (didn't win), but the track Bob (horseplayer) mentioned earlier-Arlington-had a good day. I'll post it here. The only other suggestion I can give, is keep a record of tracks that seem to win more often, and play those.

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