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Old 01-20-2022, 04:00 PM   #1
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apprentice allowance

Just noticed something odd in the PPs for this Saturday at Aqueduct in the 5th race with Queentigua. On Dec 11th he was ridden by J Gomez who was given a 7 lb apprentice allowance, but a few weeks later on January 2nd same jockey but now with a 10 lb allowance. Any idea how the weight allowance went up? Was a different 7 lb bug possibly named on the horse Dec 11th & Gomez was a replacement?
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:33 PM   #2
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Just noticed something odd in the PPs for this Saturday at Aqueduct in the 5th race with Queentigua. On Dec 11th he was ridden by J Gomez who was given a 7 lb apprentice allowance, but a few weeks later on January 2nd same jockey but now with a 10 lb allowance. Any idea how the weight allowance went up? Was a different 7 lb bug possibly named on the horse Dec 11th & Gomez was a replacement?
It went down from 10 last week when he won his 5th race. The only way he rode at 7 pounds before that is if he picked up a mount late from a rider that was a seven pound bug
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Old 01-22-2022, 05:33 AM   #3
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Not saying it applies in this case.

However, there are times an apprentice can be entitled to a 10 or 7 pound allowance but choose to not claim the full amount at entry time.

Let's say a bug rider tacks 113 lbs.

A horse can get in at 110lbs with a 10lb allowance but that rider knows he or she can only do 113.

They don't have to claim the entire ten pounds at time of entry. They can claim only seven. Have the weight on the program read 113 and avoid an overweight being announced.

Trainers are not big fans of bug riders being announced as overweight no matter how light the situation is.
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Old 01-22-2022, 03:53 PM   #4
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Not saying it applies in this case.

However, there are times an apprentice can be entitled to a 10 or 7 pound allowance but choose to not claim the full amount at entry time.

Let's say a bug rider tacks 113 lbs.

A horse can get in at 110lbs with a 10lb allowance but that rider knows he or she can only do 113.

They don't have to claim the entire ten pounds at time of entry. They can claim only seven. Have the weight on the program read 113 and avoid an overweight being announced.

Trainers are not big fans of bug riders being announced as overweight no matter how light the situation is.
When making weight is an issue, I always advise trainers to waive some of the bug rather than any prescribed allowance to which the horse is entitled. That way, if the bug spurns the
mount, a replacement journeyman gets in as light as possible.
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