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Old 01-19-2022, 06:24 PM   #181
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It is clear to me that the whole covid fiasco is the fault of Fauci, Biden, hcap, and mostie.
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Old 01-19-2022, 06:50 PM   #182
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Ready or Not Here it comes... backtracking from the CDC via The New York Times



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The New York Times | Jan 19, 2022
Covid Live Updates: Health Worker Mandate Deadlines Loom as U.S. Hospitals Battle Omicron:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/01...ute-over-masks

Buried down towards the very bottom of the article:
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During the week beginning May 30, 2021, vaccinated people who had not experienced Covid had the lowest risk of coronavirus infection and hospitalization, followed by unvaccinated people who had been previously diagnosed with Covid.

By the week beginning Oct. 3, however, vaccinated people with a prior diagnosis fared best against the Delta variant. Unvaccinated people with a history of Covid also had lower rates of infection and hospitalization than those protected by vaccines alone.

The data are consistent with trends observed in international studies, the researchers said.
Emphasis added.

What I've been saying for months.


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Old 01-19-2022, 07:59 PM   #183
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Pretty sure what was written still provides wiggle room for them to say "but the VAX is still better"

If it's even .000001% better, that's all they need to stick to the narrative. I don't see anything in what you just posted that would deflate that dream.
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Old 01-19-2022, 09:07 PM   #184
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This larger block of text is a direct quote from The New York Times article:

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Previous infection with the coronavirus appeared to provide stronger protection against the Delta variant than did vaccination in a large sample of patients, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Wednesday.

But there are significant health risks to infection, and in the long term, vaccination still offers the best defense against the virus, the researchers said.

The data were gathered before the widespread rollout of booster shots and the emergence of the Omicron variant, so the findings may not be relevant to the current surge, the agency cautioned.

“These findings cannot be generalized to the current Omicron wave,” Benjamin Silk, an epidemiologist at the C.D.C., told reporters on Wednesday. “It’d be like comparing apples and oranges.”

By the end of November, one in six U.S. deaths from Covid were occurring in New York and California. Scientists analyzed testing, surveillance and immunization data from the two states to gauge the level of protection offered by vaccines and previous infection.

Unvaccinated people were at the highest risk of infection or severe illness with Covid throughout the study period, the scientists found. But the relative protection afforded by vaccination or prior infection changed with the arrival of the Delta variant.

During the week beginning May 30, 2021, vaccinated people who had not experienced Covid had the lowest risk of coronavirus infection and hospitalization, followed by unvaccinated people who had been previously diagnosed with Covid.

By the week beginning Oct. 3, however, vaccinated people with a prior diagnosis fared best against the Delta variant. Unvaccinated people with a history of Covid also had lower rates of infection and hospitalization than those protected by vaccines alone.

The data are consistent with trends observed in international studies, the researchers said.

Waning of vaccine-derived immunity may explain why vaccinated people were less protected from infection with the Delta variant than those who had a prior diagnosis, the researchers said.
The CDC actually told the Mainstream Media that recent data from the US is now suggesting the same thing data from Israel and Europe has been suggesting for months:
  • Vaccine immunity wanes over time.

  • Natural Immunity is real. (To quote from the article: "Unvaccinated people with a history of Covid also had lower rates of infection and hospitalization than those protected by vaccines alone.")

Agree. Still plenty of wiggle room the way this was written up in the article.

But the CDC's messaging seems to have changed.

Nowhere in the article will you find the words "pandemic of the unvaccinated."

I see this as a crucial first step.


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Old 01-28-2022, 09:51 AM   #185
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Here We Go: New Omicron Variant BA.2 Detected in at Least Four US States

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...our-us-states/

The scariants just keep on coming.
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