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02-27-2023, 08:34 PM
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SaratogaFan1
Join Date: Mar 2022
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I’ll care more about Rick when they don’t allow Ness to run in NY.
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02-27-2023, 08:36 PM
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Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,021
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Wonder if he'll get back to bringing horses back off 3 or 4 days rest ....he was deadly with that angle from what I recall
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02-28-2023, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2022
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He has his license back, but I would assume NYRA still needs to allow him back on the grounds and let him enter? Has anyone seen anything from NYRA on this?
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02-28-2023, 10:05 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 20,614
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Originally Posted by RunDustyRun
Glad he's back
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As a rival trainer or owner or fan of the sport I wouldn't be so thrilled about him being back, but purely in gambling terms I had pretty good results with him.
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02-28-2023, 10:21 AM
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#65
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 77
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Babe is back!!!
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02-28-2023, 12:47 PM
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#66
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,828
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Originally Posted by RunDustyRun
Feel like he was unfairly targeted and there were some shady circumstances surrounding some of his so called violations..Im also a firm believer in second chances and 10 years is a long time...wish him the best...edit..if the likes of peter miller, jamie freaking ness and and the GOAT are allowed on the backstretch why shouldn't he?
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That's fair, thanks.
ps...Who is the GOAT?
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02-28-2023, 12:54 PM
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#67
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,647
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Baffert of course...lol
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02-28-2023, 01:38 PM
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#68
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 189
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RICHARD DUTROW JR
It is all a matter of public record that he had a drug problem with Marijuana, Cocaine, his girlfriend was murdered, he declared bankruptcy, he grew up with two brothers around horses, his father a leading MD trainer and so forth. The man clearly had problems far greater than horse racing related and he you could argue his character is flawed or he has battled a lot of demons. The evidence on his problems with the horses apparently pales in comparison to a lot of alleged people who are doing things far worse to the horse. I still am miffed based upon other posts on other trainers who actually is not a clean trainer and where is the proof and in that regard, how many violations are enough to support the argument they are not legit, what level violation etc etc.
I really think that is a fair question given all the statements made including by me at times. If BB had three, or two would have it been OK because Asmussen just had one or whatever. Remember Mullins years ago, or Baltas recently. I mean I am pretty objective here.
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03-01-2023, 08:52 AM
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#69
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 8,798
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He paid his debt to society, which is what we want offenders to do. Wishing him the best as he restarts.
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03-01-2023, 10:30 AM
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#70
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,956
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Licensed in NY
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03-01-2023, 11:00 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 7,333
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dilanesp
He paid his debt to society, which is what we want offenders to do. Wishing him the best as he restarts.
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We agree on this one. The guy lost his license and livelihood for ten years. Whether or not you feel he deserved it, he deserves another chance. I highly doubt there will be any lenience going forward, especially given this basically coincides with HISA.
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04-05-2023, 08:53 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,956
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He's back......
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04-05-2023, 10:19 AM
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#73
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 20,614
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
As a rival trainer or owner or fan of the sport I wouldn't be so thrilled about him being back, but purely in gambling terms I had pretty good results with him.
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The great irony.
I will probably start betting AQU more often.
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04-05-2023, 12:19 PM
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SaratogaFan1
Join Date: Mar 2022
Posts: 356
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Quote:
Originally Posted by classhandicapper
The great irony.
I will probably start betting AQU more often.
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Times running out on that…
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04-05-2023, 01:27 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 20,614
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Originally Posted by $w1fT
Times running out on that…
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We can include Belmont in that, just don't expect me to bet synthetic. 
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