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10-10-2019, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hcap
All of your dribble is only your morn king's lawyers talking points. The constitution ONLY states this.....
The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
— Article I, Section 2, Clause 5
They can do what they want
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Operative word here is "they."
The constitution does not give the Speaker any special rights. Only the House itself. Where votes are required. And as I said, with overwhelming public support, what is she afraid of?
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10-10-2019, 11:50 AM
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Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP
Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden received $900,000 for lobbying activities from Burisma Group, Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada member Andriy Derkach said citing investigation materials.
Derkach publicized documents which, as he said, "describe the mechanism of getting money by Biden Sr." at a press conference at Interfax-Ukraine's press center in Kyiv on Wednesday.
"This was the transfer of Burisma Group's funds for lobbying activities, as investigators believe, personally to Joe Biden through a lobbying company. Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden. The payment reference was payment for consultative services," Derkach said.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/pres...ce/617936.html
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10-10-2019, 03:21 PM
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10-10-2019, 03:46 PM
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Are you trying to tell us Molly Jong Fast is a reliable source for this?
WTF is Molly Jong Fast? 
What, you couldn't get a hold of I.C Waters?
Or Fonda Peters?
Or Willy Bopper?
Or Juan Motime?
How about Annie Juan Holme?
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10-10-2019, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
The power to impeach was given to the HOUSE, not the SPEAKER of the House.
No full House vote, no legal impeachment proceedings.
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Where, pray tell, does it say that in the US Constitution?
I'll save you some time.
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
So quite MAKING STUFF UP, Tom.
What do you think this is, FoxNews?
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10-10-2019, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Operative word here is "they."
The constitution does not give the Speaker any special rights. Only the House itself. Where votes are required. And as I said, with overwhelming public support, what is she afraid of?
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There is a reason . . . . . . . .
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10-10-2019, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Burls
Where, pray tell, does it say that in the US Constitution?
I'll save you some time.
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
So quite MAKING STUFF UP, Tom.
What do you think this is, FoxNews?
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Where does it say she has the power to do so without a vote?
It doesn't
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10-10-2019, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
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The question I have is how the heck did Pat Cippolone get a law license?
Here is some of what he said in his letter.
The President has not been afforded due process rights such as the right to confront his accusers and the right to see evidence against him and the right to testify in his behalf.
An accused does have those rights. AT HIS TRIAL; NOT DURING THE INVESTIGATION. Impeachment is the investigation. The trial happens later in the Senate. So Trump is not being denied his rights of due process.
Then he says the whole house didn't vote to approve the impeachment investigation. Does not matter. The Constitution says (article 1 Section 5 Clause 2) : Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member. And it doesn't matter what they did before.
So yeah, during the Impeachment phase the president does not have the rights Cippolone thinks he has and the rules of the House are whatever the House says they are.
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10-10-2019, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burls
Where, pray tell, does it say that in the US Constitution?
I'll save you some time.
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
It doesn't
So quite MAKING STUFF UP, Tom.
What do you think this is, FoxNews?
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What DO you think this is, Canada. You have been butt hurt, since birth, that you are not an American.
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10-10-2019, 08:53 PM
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10-10-2019, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
The question I have is how the heck did Pat Cippolone get a law license?
Here is some of what he said in his letter.
The President has not been afforded due process rights such as the right to confront his accusers and the right to see evidence against him and the right to testify in his behalf.
An accused does have those rights. AT HIS TRIAL; NOT DURING THE INVESTIGATION. Impeachment is the investigation. The trial happens later in the Senate. So Trump is not being denied his rights of due process.
Then he says the whole house didn't vote to approve the impeachment investigation. Does not matter. The Constitution says (article 1 Section 5 Clause 2) : Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member. And it doesn't matter what they did before.
So yeah, during the Impeachment phase the president does not have the rights Cippolone thinks he has and the rules of the House are whatever the House says they are.
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When did the House vote on those rules?
Still, the underlying argument is that the speaker cannot assume powers. the House can vote to allow the speaker to do that, but has not done that yet.
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10-10-2019, 09:03 PM
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Wasn't Susan Rice duped by Hillary and Obama to tell lies about Benghazi?
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10-10-2019, 09:12 PM
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Yeah, the video that was never there.
Hillary lies like no one else.....ever.
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10-10-2019, 09:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom
Where does it say she has the power to do so without a vote?
It doesn't
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So, unless there is a clause that specifically allows
the House to proceed on an Impeachment Inquiry
without having the full House
formally vote in favor of such an action,
then such an Impeachment Inquiry is illegitimate.
That must also mean
that unless there is a clause that specifically allows
the House to proceed on an Impeachment Inquiry
without having the full House
attend a Marilyn Manson concert,
then such an Impeachment Inquiry is illegitimate.
It must also mean
that unless there is a clause that specifically allows
the House to proceed on an Impeachment Inquiry
without having the full House
have a weenie roast on the White House lawn,
then such an Impeachment Inquiry is illegitimate.
And so on. ...
Either that or the interpretive assumption underlying your retort sucks, Tom.
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10-10-2019, 09:52 PM
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...biden-n2554552
Stinks to high heaven
Biden gets a million in his pocket and they Trump up this bullshit....
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