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05-13-2019, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MargieRose
The proof being in the pudding, as it was with my friend. And yes, she was/IS a Trump hater.
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And yet...she remains your FRIEND?  
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05-13-2019, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by delayjf
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Is the US not aware of the above situation and can we take steps to counter China's laundering their goods through other nations?
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It's not exactly laundering, the goods are actually (technically) produced in Vietnam and other countries, although intermediate production may have taken place in China.
Remember that the production, at least on the record, is by private corporations, not by the Chinese government. And since those other nations do not have tariffs on our imports, there is no immediate concern by our government. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and China is the yuge squeak at the moment.
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05-13-2019, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by reckless
I know it is hard for you to save face after years of incorrect and silly analysis and predictions.
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Which you highly praised back when it was directed at Obama. 
I'm still doing business at the same old popcorn stand. 
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05-13-2019, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Its always interesting seeing American's mock China, a State-Capitalist command economy, as the President takes actions to create the same here...
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President Xi is better at running a country as he wants it, Trump is better at maintaining the image he wants.
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05-13-2019, 03:07 PM
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Which you highly praised back when it was directed at Obama. |
Birds have the air, and fish have the sea...but poor Clocker has no place upon which to rest his head. When he criticizes Obama he gets lambasted from the Left...and when he criticizes Trump he gets blasted from the Right.
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05-13-2019, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
And yet...she remains your FRIEND? |
If you noticed in my first reference to her, I said "Had...." Actually, we still are long-distance friends, but at quite a longer distance, right now. And, to your point, it's a MUTUAL rearrangement. Yes, I know,
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05-13-2019, 03:38 PM
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If Obama was doing this people here would be losing their minds...
Mostpost has been the most ardent supporter of Tariffs on this board until Trump came along... circa 2011.
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Originally Posted by mostpost
That was definitely a part of it, but the high taxes did not prevent us from taking advantage of those circumstances. The fact that those same countries are now flooding our markets is the reason we need to reestablish tariffs.
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05-13-2019, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Birds have the air, and fish have the sea...but poor Clocker has no place upon which to rest his head. When he criticizes Obama he gets lambasted from the Left...and when he criticizes Trump he gets blasted from the Right. |
Poor, poor pitiful me. 
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05-13-2019, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
President Xi is better at running a country as he wants it, Trump is better at maintaining the image he wants.
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Maybe because he fronts for an authoritarian state? Xi, runs nothing his party runs the country, if his party leaders say jump, Xi asks how high.
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05-13-2019, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Maybe because he fronts for an authoritarian state? Xi, runs nothing his party runs the country, if his party leaders say jump, Xi asks how high.
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You are probably right. President Xi is just a puppet, and the head of the party pulls the strings. That would be the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China.
Who would that be? Oh, that would be General Secretary Xi.
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05-13-2019, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
You are probably right. President Xi is just a puppet, and the head of the party pulls the strings. That would be the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China.
Who would that be? Oh, that would be General Secretary Xi.
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The party is run by an elite group. Xi does not make the decisions by his lonesome. The power is in the politburo and its standing committee.
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05-13-2019, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
The party is run by an elite group. Xi does not make the decisions by his lonesome. The power is in the politburo and its standing committee.
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XI is the general secretary of the Communist Party of China, President of the People's Republic of China, chairman of the Central Military Commission and a member of the Politburo. By all accounts the Politburo does what ever he wants. Any evidence to the contrary?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping
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05-13-2019, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
XI is the general secretary of the Communist Party of China, President of the People's Republic of China, chairman of the Central Military Commission and a member of the Politburo. By all accounts the Politburo does what ever he wants. Any evidence to the contrary?
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Correct a member of the ruling group.
Evidence to the contrary. Xi appointed and authorized a trade representative to negotiate an agreement. China gave written concessions during the negotiation and after the representative went back to China, the Chinese reneged.
Do you think Xi who has been involved in trade talks with Trump had no idea what his handpicked representative has been agreeing to? More than likely the other ruling members were not happy with Xi's concessions causing China to renege on its written commitments.
Last edited by Show Me the Wire; 05-13-2019 at 07:08 PM.
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05-13-2019, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
Evidence to the contrary. Xi appointed and authorized a trade representative to negotiate an agreement. China gave written concessions during the negotiation and after the representative went back to China, the Chinese reneged.
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Source?
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05-13-2019, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
Source?
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The same source as yours that claims the politburo does whatever Xi wants.
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