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Old 02-18-2018, 10:04 AM   #196
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You all need way better examples as well...because I haven't seen or heard anything anywhere near convincing yet...

Guns are the problem? Really...I don't think so...

Guns and kids and schools have been around FOREVER...but only now there is a problem...

Wouldn't you say it was something else other than guns? Or are the guns these days some sort of magical beings that have hypnotized these killers into doing their bidding?

You don't actually believe guns are the root cause of all these modern day problems, do you?
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:21 AM   #197
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The AR 15 isn't an assault weapon.
Are you sure?
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:37 AM   #198
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Yes Im sure the AR-15 is not a assault rifle its just a rifle.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:49 AM   #199
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It looks super scary though...that must mean it's an assault rifle...

And isn't EVERY firearm an assault weapon?
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:54 AM   #200
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Jesse James would agree with you, Boss!

Son of Sam - no automatic weapons - terrorized NYC for over a year - people afraid to go out at night, dying their hair.....

Common sense definition of what the real problem is might be a good place to start.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:57 AM   #201
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Banning guns will do the job that law enforcement will not do.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:11 AM   #202
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And isn't EVERY firearm an assault weapon?
The phrase/term Assault Weapon is what made me post the question.
You know what I mean. FF just used the wrong word.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:14 AM   #203
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Are you sure?
As far as I know, there is no current definition of an assault weapon under federal law. So the general answer is it is not.

Under federal law at the time that the AWB was in effect, some AR-15s were legally defined as assault weapons and some were not, based largely on appearance rather than function. And the average citizen at the time could probably not tell the difference.

A few predictably anal states do have laws defining assault weapons (CA, NY, MA, etc.). The AR-15 is classified as an assault weapon in those states.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:23 AM   #204
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it matters not at all, go for your life.
can't resist another little dig can you?
it's ok though, i am here, and you are there.
how lucky am i?
How lucky? Your entire country was disarmed by the government.
Look into that a little and you will find people like Stalin, Mao and others did the same thing. Then they wholesale slaughtered millions. Our 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting, or target shooting. It was placed in our constitution so the people could defend themselves from our government.

It’s backed up in the writings of our founders from the Federalist papers to the sons of Liberty.

You now live in a country that has no recourse but to be subservient to your governments every whim.

You have 23 million people, but only 56k military members. You are ripe for invasion. No way you can protect your own shoreline.
Your population would be sitting ducks for any invading force. Do you think that’s the same here? We have 28 million veterans in this country. 99% of them willing to pull a trigger to protect the country (excluding John Kerry) and that’s not counting the rednecks who have never served

Are you starting to get the point? Your country relies on the kindness of others and the hope that no tyrants rise up. Americans were endowed with the right to shoot their politicians should it come to that and in no way would we ever hope that someone else would protect us from the forces of evil that pervade this world.

We saved the world and in fact your country especially, in World War II by using GUNS and we are equipped to do it again, unlike your country. So you sit over there with your nose in the air thinking you are more civilized, cultured and such. America will stay on watch. We will endure sad episodes such as school shootings because we have ignorant school leaders, left leaning gun grabbers and the like, but we will not let these events change our underlying foundations and belief systems at the whim of a politician or a political party. Unlike you.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:53 AM   #205
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It's a good thing then that Australia's not a "shithole" country.
Boy, that's really the same thing. Amazing how people twist everything these days.

I'm guessing that Australia has some shithole areas of their country just like we do. Neither country is such a disaster that the whole country could be characterized as such. Some could though, and saying so in a private meeting shouldn't have been used for partisan politics.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:56 AM   #206
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The phrase/term Assault Weapon is what made me post the question.
You know what I mean. FF just used the wrong word.
How did I use the wrong word saying it's not an assault weapon. By definition, it's not.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:01 PM   #207
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How lucky? Your entire country was disarmed by the government.
Look into that a little and you will find people like Stalin, Mao and others did the same thing. Then they wholesale slaughtered millions. Our 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting, or target shooting. It was placed in our constitution so the people could defend themselves from our government.

It’s backed up in the writings of our founders from the Federalist papers to the sons of Liberty.

You now live in a country that has no recourse but to be subservient to your governments every whim.

You have 23 million people, but only 56k military members. You are ripe for invasion. No way you can protect your own shoreline.
Your population would be sitting ducks for any invading force. Do you think that’s the same here? We have 28 million veterans in this country. 99% of them willing to pull a trigger to protect the country (excluding John Kerry) and that’s not counting the rednecks who have never served

Are you starting to get the point? Your country relies on the kindness of others and the hope that no tyrants rise up. Americans were endowed with the right to shoot their politicians should it come to that and in no way would we ever hope that someone else would protect us from the forces of evil that pervade this world.

We saved the world and in fact your country especially, in World War II by using GUNS and we are equipped to do it again, unlike your country. So you sit over there with your nose in the air thinking you are more civilized, cultured and such. America will stay on watch. We will endure sad episodes such as school shootings because we have ignorant school leaders, left leaning gun grabbers and the like, but we will not let these events change our underlying foundations and belief systems at the whim of a politician or a political party. Unlike you.
Great post, Ralph.

Many people in this country don't understand the purpose of the 2nd amendment.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:02 PM   #208
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How lucky? Your entire country was disarmed by the government.
Look into that a little and you will find people like Stalin, Mao and others did the same thing. Then they wholesale slaughtered millions. Our 2nd Amendment isn’t about hunting, or target shooting. It was placed in our constitution so the people could defend themselves from our government.

It’s backed up in the writings of our founders from the Federalist papers to the sons of Liberty.

You now live in a country that has no recourse but to be subservient to your governments every whim.

You have 23 million people, but only 56k military members. You are ripe for invasion. No way you can protect your own shoreline.
Your population would be sitting ducks for any invading force. Do you think that’s the same here? We have 28 million veterans in this country. 99% of them willing to pull a trigger to protect the country (excluding John Kerry) and that’s not counting the rednecks who have never served

Are you starting to get the point? Your country relies on the kindness of others and the hope that no tyrants rise up. Americans were endowed with the right to shoot their politicians should it come to that and in no way would we ever hope that someone else would protect us from the forces of evil that pervade this world.

We saved the world and in fact your country especially, in World War II by using GUNS and we are equipped to do it again, unlike your country. So you sit over there with your nose in the air thinking you are more civilized, cultured and such. America will stay on watch. We will endure sad episodes such as school shootings because we have ignorant school leaders, left leaning gun grabbers and the like, but we will not let these events change our underlying foundations and belief systems at the whim of a politician or a political party. Unlike you.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:15 PM   #209
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Thanks! I already used that in a morning discussion with my liberal girlfriend, that is a great truth. Sorry I could not credit you as she has browsed this forum and despises most of us, including post election comments by Inner Dirt. She did know it was me.
If I have said it already, your girlfriend seems like a real keeper!
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:28 PM   #210
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