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Old 08-19-2010, 02:06 AM   #46
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All my big scores happened there. There's something special about that place. Yes, I will definitely sleep better tonight knowing that the good guys finally won one.

Now we have to get them to put in a 10% takeout early pick 4 bet. That fight will take another 4 years. I'm game.
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I'll be almost as happy as you when I see it actually happen.

We have heard this before.and we'll hear it again. Seems to me that if this were really going to happen, there could be no Oak Tree meet at SA. It wouldn't surprise me if the CHRB's surface expert recommends NOT racing on the Pro-Ride anymore, and MID knows it, but we shall see.

Would the DRF abbreviation for Oak Tree at Hollywood be OHO or OTH?
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:55 AM   #47
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Oak Tree needs to go away. They served their purpose once upon a time when there was no meet during a certain time on the calendar, so they went to the track and offered to lease the track and hold a meet during that time.

A lot of people jumped on Stronach for not wanting to renew the Oak Tree lease but it makes logical business sense. Their contract called for the lease amount to be 75% of profits. It's better to get 100% of the profits from a meet that SA could hold themselves. They don't need OTRA to hold that meet.

It's in the best interest of SA that they maximize profits yet OTRA is out competing with SA for those racing dates. They should let SA have them and support SA being successful as the one track with a committed future to S. California racing. I can think of no reason why they don't do this outside of one - the men at OTRA who draw a salary off the meet.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:42 AM   #48
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is this going to interrupt the filming of Luck ?
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:13 AM   #49
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If you write "Regards Jeremy Jet" ( with your name just above your avatar ) one more time. I'm gonna shoot myself right in the face!
How ironic. I have the same urge when I hear you calling a race.

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Old 08-19-2010, 06:38 AM   #50
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http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/sports/ci_15823258

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Sherwood Chillingworth, executive vice president of Oak Tree, didn't want to hazard a guess as to the outcome of those tests.

"It's (report) changed hourly just this afternoon," Chillingworth said.
"One day I hear everything is going great, and 15 minutes later they've changed their mind and it's not all right. So it's been on and off."


Read more: http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/spor...#ixzz0x2yj2cen
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:43 AM   #51
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Santa Anita will go back to the dirt - latimes.com
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Many horsemen quickly grew to hate the surfaces the exact type of synthetic varied in brand and performance from Santa Anita to Hollywood Park to Del Mar and sought a return to good old-fashioned dirt. In four years that movement quickly went from grumble to groundswell.
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Old 08-19-2010, 06:52 AM   #52
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All sounds wishy washy to me. He does not say they are building a new dirt track but they are committed to building a new dirt track

I will look forward to another 4 months of Pro-Ride from December 26th
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:35 AM   #53
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In one fell swoop, Stronach gets rid of Oak Tree and SA's synthetic surface. Now, how can California and the rest of racing get rid of Stronach? and the CHRB....
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When should we expect Hollywood & Del Mar to return to dirt?
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:31 AM   #55
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Anytime. I've been waiting for almost four years. My self imposed exile will be over by the day afer Christmas. I can go back to Santa Anita again.

Andy,

Thank you for your untold amount of hours and work to bring this issue to this point. Yes, Yes, you had a lot of help too, but no one gave as much as you did to spread the light. THANK YOU.

P.S. Now that it is happening, you can expect that most were on your side all along

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Old 08-19-2010, 09:36 AM   #56
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When should we expect Hollywood & Del Mar to return to dirt?
Probably never with Hollywood. Their track is basically dirt as it is, they say its cushion (whatever that means) but i'm guessing its a mixture of whatever cushion is and some sort of actual dirt, it plays like dirt. Horsemen don't like to run at hollywood anyway, so i'm not sure it makes a difference what track they have over there. Can't spend a bunch of money changing the track when this place may be 6 feet under within a few years.

Del Mar on the other hand is a different story. Hopefully they'll convert back to dirt at some point and let Bing stop rolling over in his grave. Safety this safety that blah blah blah, they turned one of the most prestigious meets into a dog and pony show. Hopefully one day they'll wake up, smell the coffee and get back to reality.
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Old 08-19-2010, 09:59 AM   #57
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:06 AM   #58
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All sounds wishy washy to me. He does not say they are building a new dirt track but they are committed to building a new dirt track

I will look forward to another 4 months of Pro-Ride from December 26th
This is a quote from the meeting:

"When Oak Tree ends, we will move right in," Stronach said. "We think we can have it finished by the first week in December."

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I guess it's more significant for SA to switch back to dirt than Del Mar, but I'm actually more anxious for Del Mar to go back to dirt because I love vacationing there. The synthetic racing there sort of ruined the place for me as a potential vacation spot.
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Andy,

do you include Frank in your emails?
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