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03-20-2010, 08:55 PM
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St.Jimmy
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Two plays in NY for Sunday
Playing a DD in the fourth race starting with Missing Link who stretches and draws the rail while in the easiest spot of his career.
Not much price wise but absolutely nothing to beat.
Looking long in the fifth going against Air Lord with both fists.
Matthew TC is the speed from the rail and was okay chasing in last in a race I think he needed. Takes these a long way from the rail.
Admirality stretches out off what appear to be mediocre sprints but could find himself in the garden spot if Matthew controls, puts away, then tires.
Either or at a good number.
Moving to the 8th and I'm chalking out big time here. Hour Glass is inside with the perfect style in race loaded with need the lead stuff.
In the 9th, K's Revenge drops to the basement adding blinkers and may be a fair win price if Hour Glass wins the 8th because with everyone alive in the DD, the win pool may be neglected to the tune of 4/5.
Good luck to all
Ben
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03-20-2010, 11:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cees with dees
Playing a DD in the fourth race starting with Missing Link who stretches and draws the rail while in the easiest spot of his career.
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This 3YO is going long against older for the first time in his career. I wouldn't call that "the easiest spot"
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Originally Posted by cees with dees
Not much price wise but absolutely nothing to beat.
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You need to stop using that "nothing to beat here" bullshit line. This is what happpened the last time you said that on 3/16.
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Originally Posted by cees with dees
...with Razzledazzleme and the more I look at that race, Razzle has nothing to beat here.
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Razzle finished 4th in a field of 6 at even money. Apparently there was plenty to beat here. You use that dismissive line for the rest of a field quite a bit in your analysis.This reminds me of TVG analysts who talk about 2 or 3 favorites in a race and never mention the winner until after the race. Looking at races with tunnel vision is the last thing you want to do.
I have nothing against your picks. Just don't dismiss the rest of the field like they dont exist. If you really felt that way,you would be betting the ranch on your "nothing to beat here" horses and be in the poor house. If I was a bookie,I would love to take your action. You give me the field and you take your mortal locks.
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03-21-2010, 12:36 AM
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Where are your pre-race picks Light?
Did you watch the Razzlemedazzleme race? Do you know what transpired that led to her losing?
Stop worrying about other people and put something useful up before races are run....or don't lecture people who do.
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03-21-2010, 03:49 AM
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I appreciate that you are one of the few posters that gives some insight and detail into why you choose the horses you've chosen.
These are good picks. I'll be watching to see how they do.
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03-21-2010, 09:46 AM
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It almost seems like Light lost a bet using cees with dees info
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03-21-2010, 10:21 AM
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iF YOU DON'T PICK YOUR OWN YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET
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03-21-2010, 10:30 AM
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generally the younger horses running against older in maiden's and nw2's are finding easier spots than if they were running against straight 3 yo's. also horses at bottom level new york breds that need to go long are as weak as it gets.
i am just speaking from generalities, but cee's and dee's is right, and i have watched his posts and he has alot of knowledge about this game, and has reasonably good picks all the time. the man does his work and there is no need to smash the guy over the head for putting in a big effort and giving his reason's which happen to be very sound.
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03-21-2010, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I appreciate that you are one of the few posters that gives some insight and detail into why you choose the horses you've chosen.
These are good picks. I'll be watching to see how they do.
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i am not even betting his picks today, but i hope like hell they all win big
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03-21-2010, 11:01 AM
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cees with dees and the littlel guy
cees with dees: Thanks for sharing your insight and gleanings of hard work.
the little guy: excellent response imho, you covered the facts.
and I'll echo lamboguy "i hope like hell they all win big"
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03-21-2010, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the little guy
Where are your pre-race picks Light?
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That's irrelavent to what I was talking about. And if I do give picks,I would never dismiss the field with a "nothing to beat here" comment. That has to be the most naive comment an analyst can make. What happened to Rachel,hmm?
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Originally Posted by the little guy
Did you watch the Razzlemedazzleme race? Do you know what transpired that led to her losing?
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Actually didn't watch it,but if the horse had trouble,that is another reason why you should never assume a horse is a lock
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Originally Posted by the little guy
Stop worrying about other people and put something useful up before races are run....or don't lecture people who do.
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I'm not worried about what he is doing. I'm just pointing out a stupid comment he keeps repeating.
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03-21-2010, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by timtam
It almost seems like Light lost a bet using cees with dees info
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Why in the world would I ever use an analyst's picks? I finished 23rd in the country in the drf nhc contest last January. That tells me that I know how to handicap better than the vast majority of players. But even if that fact didn't exist, I also know most analysts ROI is in the toilet. I think I have proved that.
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03-21-2010, 12:41 PM
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C'est Tout
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If cees is repeating a stupid comment why do you stupidly continue to read it...every time? Seems you would ignore his posts, or does he have something to offer that you find valuable?
IMO I like cees posts....he put me on a winner while home sick (i am still home sick...5 days now ) and hopin he will do so again today, as concentrating on horses is very challenging when under the weather.
Keep it up dude, and glad you are doing better, cees.
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03-21-2010, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
If cees is repeating a stupid comment why do you stupidly continue to read it...every time? Seems you would ignore his posts, or does he have something to offer that you find valuable?
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You know,this is called a "message board" because it is an exchange of ideas. It does irritate me when I see an experienced capper saying "there is nothing to beat here". They run horses on the track not on paper for a reason.
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03-21-2010, 01:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Light
Why in the world would I ever use an analyst's picks? I finished 23rd in the country in the drf nhc contest last January. That tells me that I know how to handicap better than the vast majority of players. But even if that fact didn't exist, I also know most analysts ROI is in the toilet. I think I have proved that.
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Did YOU?
Funny, I thought you weren't even there, and somebody ( obviously not as clever as you....since he doesn't believe in your advice in this thread ) asked for your assistance.
What contest did YOU win to qualify?
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03-21-2010, 01:55 PM
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velocitician
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Light
You know,this is called a "message board" because it is an exchange of ideas. .
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most forget that....
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