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09-15-2018, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
I'm not advocating it. In effect it was advocated by Ernst Haeckel and more recently by William Sumner. It appears to me that the consensus of many who post here is an endorsement of the Haeckel-Sumner philosophy. I repeat, I do not advocate the Haeckel-Sumner philosophy but statements made by some here seem to inevitably lead to its implementation.
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nothing lives forever and everything eventually dies on its own.
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09-15-2018, 02:56 PM
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#167
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Librocubicularist
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
... a person who's not made the proper choices in life ...
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Interesting phrase: "the proper choices".
Ten thousand years ago people were just as smart as they are today. The did not have the same information that we have today but they did come up with some great inventions that put them at the top of the food chain: fire, the spear point, the sharp edge, etc.
Let me put forth the following proposition. The "proper choices" of today are unnatural.
1. Thrift is unnatural. Sounds like a good idea today but 10,000 years ago the thing of greatest value was food. Food rots. You can't save it. Eat it before it rots.
2. Dieting is unnatural. Losing weight is not a problem. If you gain too much weight it slows you down and you don't catch as much food. Problem solved! Wait! What problem?
3. The work ethic is unnatural. That last hunt just wore you out and you didn't catch anything. Get some rest then try again.
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09-15-2018, 02:58 PM
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Librocubicularist
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by davew
nothing lives forever and everything eventually dies on its own.
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What's your point?
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09-15-2018, 03:05 PM
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#169
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Originally Posted by Actor
statements made by some here seem to inevitably lead to its implementation.
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Somebody here said something that sounds like something else that you don't agree with. But you aren't going to say who said what, or why you intuit those statements to mean what you think they mean.
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09-15-2018, 03:39 PM
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#170
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
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Originally Posted by Actor
By what standard? Do you equate survival with living?
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I absolutely do.
People make choices. When they make them early in life, they will pay the price for their entire life... unless they decide to change it.
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09-15-2018, 03:40 PM
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#171
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Actor
Interesting phrase: "the proper choices".
Ten thousand years ago people were just as smart as they are today. The did not have the same information that we have today but they did come up with some great inventions that put them at the top of the food chain: fire, the spear point, the sharp edge, etc.
Let me put forth the following proposition. The "proper choices" of today are unnatural.
1. Thrift is unnatural. Sounds like a good idea today but 10,000 years ago the thing of greatest value was food. Food rots. You can't save it. Eat it before it rots.
2. Dieting is unnatural. Losing weight is not a problem. If you gain too much weight it slows you down and you don't catch as much food. Problem solved! Wait! What problem?
3. The work ethic is unnatural. That last hunt just wore you out and you didn't catch anything. Get some rest then try again.
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OMG - Is there a point in here somewhere that I have missed?
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09-15-2018, 03:55 PM
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#172
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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz
OMG - Is there a point in here somewhere that I have missed?
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Thrift is unnatural. So humans who developed agriculture and stored food against future bad times and famines angered the gods, and were punished with global warming.
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09-15-2018, 03:56 PM
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Smarty Pants
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Every Vote Counts
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The Left is very clever with terms, words, and the use of language.
We all want to live, right?
Therefore the term living wage.
As opposed to what, a dying wage?
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09-15-2018, 05:12 PM
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#174
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Western NY
Posts: 5,336
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Actor
Interesting phrase: "the proper choices".
Ten thousand years ago people were just as smart as they are today. The did not have the same information that we have today but they did come up with some great inventions that put them at the top of the food chain: fire, the spear point, the sharp edge, etc.
Let me put forth the following proposition. The "proper choices" of today are unnatural.
1. Thrift is unnatural. Sounds like a good idea today but 10,000 years ago the thing of greatest value was food. Food rots. You can't save it. Eat it before it rots.
2. Dieting is unnatural. Losing weight is not a problem. If you gain too much weight it slows you down and you don't catch as much food. Problem solved! Wait! What problem?
3. The work ethic is unnatural. That last hunt just wore you out and you didn't catch anything. Get some rest then try again.
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I can't think of anything more unnatural than socialism, except maybe food dye.
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09-15-2018, 05:26 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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1. Thrift is unnatural. Sounds like a good idea today but 10,000 years ago the thing of greatest value was food. Food rots. You can't save it. Eat it before it rots.
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That is why people WORTH extra pay developed preservation.
Smoking, freezing, salting.....they called it development.
What you describe was several steps lower than man on the evolutionary scale. And they are still there, waiting for US to feed them.
I am reminded of a parable.
A young boy asked his grandfather where man came from.
"Man evolved from the Apes" he replied.
"Grandpa, if man came from the apes, why are there still apes?"
"Some of the apes were democrats."
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Last edited by Tom; 09-15-2018 at 05:28 PM.
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09-15-2018, 05:30 PM
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Smarty Pants
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Every Vote Counts
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That's pretty brutal Tom.
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