The coronavirus

[Jeff P]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

This is part of it. The full interview was very impressive. You can read it if you can't find the video.

I've been arguing on twitter all day about this case.

People don't understand that someone can be vaccinated themselves, be pro vaccination in general, and still hold that a guy like Isaac that has already been infected and that demonstrably has antibodies is as safe or safer than the vaccinated players. So he should be allowed to play. The best defense I've heard is that it's not the NBA stopping him. It's NYC and San Fran. That's true, but everyone in those cities is rolling over and not even trying to carve out exceptions for healthcare workers, teachers, and other employees that can provide a recent positive antibody test. People that are safe are being coerced into getting the jab or losing their job despite their desire to wait.

I found and watched the full video on NBC Sports.

Imo, it's truly sad not one single reporter in the room thought to ask Mr. Isaac a follow up question about recovering from Covid and having natural immunity as a result.

It's as if government health officials, the mainstream media, and social media companies have forgotten everything we've learned about natural immunity over the past few hundred years.


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[Jeff P]

Two sentences in the NBC Sports article that I linked to in my above post read as follows:

Vaccinated people are generally less likely than unvaccinated people to spread coronavirus. Even among those with natural immunity, vaccinated people have greater protection than unvaccinated people.

The link in the above quote takes you to a New York Times article published on Sept 03, 2021.

But the phrase natural immunity is not mentioned in the article. Nor is natural immunity mentioned in the study cited by article.



I did a Google search and found a recent article about Natural Immunity written by Professor Marty Makary of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine that was published by The Washington Post on September 15, 2021.

By Marty Makary | September 15, 2021 at 12:45 p.m. EDT
Natural immunity to covid is powerful. Policymakers seem afraid to say so:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...ccine-mandate/

Marty Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, editor-in-chief of Medpage Today, and author of “The Price We Pay: What Broke American Health Care — and How to Fix It."

It’s okay to have an incorrect scientific hypothesis. But when new data proves it wrong, you have to adapt. Unfortunately, many elected leaders and public health officials have held on far too long to the hypothesis that natural immunity offers unreliable protection against covid-19 — a contention that is being rapidly debunked by science.

More than 15 studies have demonstrated the power of immunity acquired by previously having the virus. A 700,000-person study from Israel two weeks ago found that those who had experienced prior infections were 27 times less likely to get a second symptomatic covid infection than those who were vaccinated. This affirmed a June Cleveland Clinic study of health-care workers (who are often exposed to the virus), in which none who had previously tested positive for the coronavirus got reinfected. The study authors concluded that “individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from covid-19 vaccination.” And in May, a Washington University study found that even a mild covid infection resulted in long-lasting immunity.

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[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

Quick question....Do you have Jab regret?

I don't.

What a silly question.

Unless you encounter a side effect, why would you?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by Jeff P

https://twitter.com/i/status/1442809449039769601



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The whole situation is bizarre and rather sickening. Has been from day one. I knew it would be. Just look at the posts at the start of this thread.

The insanity factor was high from day one.

And here we are, nearly two years later...and we are likely in the same spot we would have been, as a nation and as a world, had we not gone through the super insane shit that we did during most of 2020.

Sweden basically proves that theory.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

I don't.

What a silly question.

Unless you encounter a side effect, why would you?

I asked Class, due to his sudden surge of vaccine caution in his posts....If I wanted your response, I would have asked YOU....But I didn't pose a question to you at all.

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

I asked Class, due to his sudden surge of vaccine caution in his posts....If I wanted your response, I would have asked YOU....But I didn't pose a question to you at all.

Sudden? Where have you been? He's been talking vaccine caution forever.

Don't try and dope on me...dope.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Sudden? Where have you been? He's been talking vaccine caution forever.

Don't try and dope on me...dope.

Nah, He just recently got on board...He posts so much that it seems like awhile...Maybe he saw a few informative truth vids that awakened him, thus the question I posed to HIM.

[PaceAdvantage]

All your deadlines have come and gone...and nothing has changed.

Time for another one...I eagerly await.

[ReplayRandall]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

All your deadlines have come and gone...and nothing has changed.

Time for another one...I eagerly await.

You know what's funny is how we tolerate each other....We both have strong wills and intellect, yet we don't share enough trust in one another to ever be drinking buddies...

You landed on the truth a couple of weeks ago when you said, "I target lower-tier sites for my message to get out". When I have 4-5 sites with no targeting for censoring, I can and do get my narrative out and it does spread. But since you don't believe a word I say, maybe I should just sit back and watch others do their thing on your site for awhile....I think that's what I'll do, don't want to overstay my time here.

Thanks for the motivation.

[PaceAdvantage]

Well excuse me for not giving you the credit you don't deserve.

All these major proclamations (some with actual dates) that never come to pass left me with a bad taste in my mouth...something no mouthwash can ever overcome.

But you do you.

[PaceAdvantage]

Oh...and one more thing RR...you SHOULD be in self-imposed exile for being so wrong so often.

So kudos to you for finally gaining a smidge of self-awareness.

[ReplayRandall]

My work here is done....The STORM is here....Thank you for allowing me to play in your sandbox.

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by ReplayRandall

I asked Class, due to his sudden surge of vaccine caution in his posts....If I wanted your response, I would have asked YOU....But I didn't pose a question to you at all.

I don't have jab regret.

I think there would be a huge net benefit to society if more people were vaccinated even if the authorities are understating the risks.

My change in tone is mostly related to my utter disdain for spin and lies even when I think the goal is noble.

The "noble" spin and lies coming from Fraudci and others disgusts me.

Coercing people into taking the jab by locking them out of activities and firing them even when they can demonstrate they have had prior infection and still have immunity disgusts me.

Moving the goal post and claiming success even though the vaccine loses efficacy quickly, requires a booster because break though cases are exploding etc.. disgusts me.

Blocking attempts to test or use safe cheap off label therapeutics prescribed by a doctor disgusts me.

Just tell the F'ing truth, educate people, and try to do the best you can.

The rest of it is unethical, immoral, totalitarian scum. I don't care how noble the goal is or that I often agree with what the goal should be. Tell the F'n truth.

[PaceAdvantage]

Headline on article on CNBC at the moment:

‘I want a normal Thanksgiving’: Covid booster shot recipients say of third Pfizer dose

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/30/pfiz...ird-shots.html

Remember when the goalpost was originally placed at "Get the shot, get back to normal!"...you know...when the shots first came out...

Now it's "get the booster and maybe you can have a normal THANKSGIVING..."

[Elkchester Road]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Headline on article on CNBC at the moment:

‘I want a normal Thanksgiving’: Covid booster shot recipients say of third Pfizer dose

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/30/pfiz...ird-shots.html

Remember when the goalpost was originally placed at "Get the shot, get back to normal!"...you know...when the shots first came out...

Now it's "get the booster and maybe you can have a normal THANKSGIVING..."

It is stunning...no matter how many times the Goalposts are moved...or how far...how some people accept the shit these "Leaders" spew.

I am glad I live where I do. Not much in the way of nonsense here.