Finley: A Long Winter At Aqueduct

[jk3521]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Holy crap. I remember Yudy Eye. I can't remember the names of famous current actors, movies, athletes, songs etc... but I remember Yudy Eye.

I just looked at the PPs.

88 starts
18 wins
11 places
6 shows

earned 86,836

That's when 86 thousand dollars was 86 thousand dollars!

[Cratos]

I have read posts in this thread where the poster(s) disagree with Finley, but I have yet to read one post that give a salient reason for maintaining Aqueduct status quo.

In my opinion this is another case by the nostalgia few who is "fiddling" while "Rome is burning".

Get over it, this industry obviously need change, but to keep a "boat full of holes" afloat because we want a boat ride is beyond comprehension.

If we want winter racing in NY, invest in Finger Lakes upstate; yes, some of you might find that suggestion outlandish; however we all are entitled to our opinions.

[BELMONT 6-6-09]

I agree the winter product in NY has simply gone bad for all of the reasons stated in the article and by the many posters. the horse shortage is real and has been a major reason and the inner dirt track might be unsafe.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Cratos

I have read posts in this thread where the poster(s) disagree with Finley, but I have yet to read one post that give a salient reason for maintaining Aqueduct status quo.


If we want winter racing in NY, invest in Finger Lakes upstate; yes, some of you might find that suggestion outlandish; however we all are entitled to our opinions.

1. It makes money.
2. People like to bet it.
3. What esle matters?

Finger Lakes?
We have REAL winters here, not like NY - highlights of snow.
It would cost a fortune to winterize the track AND the barns, and the building.

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by Tom

1. It makes money.
2. People like to bet it.
3. What esle matters?

Finger Lakes?
We have REAL winters here, not like NY - highlights of snow.
It would cost a fortune to winterize the track AND the barns, and the building.

I miss FL, when do they start racing again?

[Tom]

Mid April.
Used to open for weekends first of March....not a pleasant place to be.

[onefast99]

Originally Posted by Tom

Mid April.
Used to open for weekends first of March....not a pleasant place to be.

Just came back from Syracuse -14 last Monday not including the wind chill factor. Brutally cold winter not normal, well the snow is....

[OTM Al]

Originally Posted by Tom

1. It makes money.
2. People like to bet it.
3. What esle matters?

Finger Lakes?
We have REAL winters here, not like NY - highlights of snow.
It would cost a fortune to winterize the track AND the barns, and the building.

That sums it up pretty well. It also outhandles, or at least did previous to this year, most other winter tracks not named Santa Anita on a regular basis, so it seems to be pretty popular for all the complaining being done. This has been an unusually bad winter and should not be used as the yardstick.

It's not Saratoga, we get it...

[netbet]

http://live.drf.com/nuggets/10448

David Grening , Aqueduct - DRF Live
1hr 9mins ago

NYRA missed pick-4 guarantee Saturday

I must admit, NYRA's guarantee of a pick-4 pool on Saturday's at $200K is not really enticement for me to play the wager. Typically, almost without blinking, the late pick-4 pool exceeds $200,000.

Such was the not the case Saturday, when, after a week without running a live race, the late pick-4 pool at Aqueduct was $170,717 forcing NYRA to make up the difference. The week before, the pick-4 pool was $254,556. The other three Saturdays in 2015 in which there was a guarantee the pool topped $300,000.

First post Saturday was 1:20 p.m. -- the first time this winter post was that late on the weekend. Post times were sped up due to snow and the pick-4 started at 3:34 right as Gulfstream Park was in the meat of its stakes-laden card. Also, NYRA had run its feature as the third.

Total handle Saturday was $5,087,782 at Aqueduct Saturday, a terrible figure for a Saturday.

[Al Gobbi]

Aqueduct also got outhandled by Tampa Bay on Saturday. Yes, Tampa ran 11 races compared to the 9 Aqueduct put out, but its not like it was a big day by any means at Tampa.

[wisconsin]

Originally Posted by Al Gobbi

Aqueduct also got outhandled by Tampa Bay on Saturday. Yes, Tampa ran 11 races compared to the 9 Aqueduct put out, but its not like it was a big day by any means at Tampa.

So what? It's not like Aqueduct is "struggling" for handle these days...

[Stillriledup]

Originally Posted by netbet

http://live.drf.com/nuggets/10448

David Grening , Aqueduct - DRF Live
1hr 9mins ago

NYRA missed pick-4 guarantee Saturday

I must admit, NYRA's guarantee of a pick-4 pool on Saturday's at $200K is not really enticement for me to play the wager. Typically, almost without blinking, the late pick-4 pool exceeds $200,000.

Such was the not the case Saturday, when, after a week without running a live race, the late pick-4 pool at Aqueduct was $170,717 forcing NYRA to make up the difference. The week before, the pick-4 pool was $254,556. The other three Saturdays in 2015 in which there was a guarantee the pool topped $300,000.

First post Saturday was 1:20 p.m. -- the first time this winter post was that late on the weekend. Post times were sped up due to snow and the pick-4 started at 3:34 right as Gulfstream Park was in the meat of its stakes-laden card. Also, NYRA had run its feature as the third.

Total handle Saturday was $5,087,782 at Aqueduct Saturday, a terrible figure for a Saturday.

I know personally that whatever i normally bet at Aqu was way less because i didnt' spend hours handicapping the cards...especially 4 races "in advance".

This was strictly a situation where people couldn't trust them to race so not enough people spent time preparing for their card.

[Cratos]

Western NY winters are too harsh and winter in the NYC area is an anomaly this year; and all we have to do is wait until 2016 and everything will be fine and dandy.

Give me a f**** ing break! Winter racing in harsh winter climate is not conducive for the betterment of horseracing regardless of the mutuel handle.

If this sport is going to move forward the essence of Finley 's article is astounding correct.

[Tom]

If AQU were to close today and not open until April 1, what would you do tomorrow, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat......??

Then go do it.

No one is forcing you to play in the winter.
You have other options.

[JJShilo]

Can't see why they can't closed from the hilliday break till till early March then race till the middle of April. If someone needs to race horses maybe N.Y. could make a deal with the warmer weather tracks to take them as long as they come back .