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Old 12-04-2014, 06:16 PM   #46
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More NYRA Handle Bleeding

Today Thur. 12/04/14 on track: $647,872..... total: $4,771,272

Last Year Thur 12/05/13 $815,886 ....... $6,427,476

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Old 12-04-2014, 06:18 PM   #47
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Today Thur. 12/04/14 on track: $647,872 total: $4,771,272

Last Year Thur 12/05/13 815,886 6,427,476
if they raise coffee from 4 a cup to 5 a cup and sell 2 million cups, all will be well.

All will be well.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:33 PM   #48
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From the Bloodhorse.com article about Zia:
Link: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz3KxGIJLTV

Is it possible that from a lower signal fee - better rebates - lower effective takeout standpoint ZIA became a more attractive signal for bettors relative to other signals 'managed' by Monarch and Churchill where signal fees went up and rebates went down?

In my opinion the jump for ZIA in off track handle suggests that might be the case.


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they were shown on TVG much more this year than ever before. I'm sure that had much to do with the rise in off track handle.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:39 PM   #49
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If they are losing money with that handle, how does any other track (most with a fraction of that handle) stay in business?
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:45 PM   #50
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If they are losing money with that handle, how does any other track (most with a fraction of that handle) stay in business?
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:47 PM   #51
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Coffee.
Lol, sounds like they have a flawed business model.
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Old 12-05-2014, 07:44 AM   #52
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Lol, sounds like they have a flawed business model.
No it isn't, it all works out with Casino money . Who cares if people are getting ripped off? Or if the product is bad. There's still purses and racing. That's all that matters...its a real winning attitude.....it will work indefinitely.

Those stupid horse players, they can't quit, they won't take the money elsewhere.....you read, hear and feel this about the industry all the time. I've never heard any other business take this stance.....business model? Are you kidding me? Spit on them they'll keep playing anyway?Guess what? The tipping point on that is being reached. How many more million can it sink? Those crazy horse players, we can milk them for ever. Well guess what? Ole Elsie's teets just ran dry..........
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Old 12-05-2014, 08:34 AM   #53
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No it isn't, it all works out with Casino money . Who cares if people are getting ripped off? Or if the product is bad. There's still purses and racing. That's all that matters...its a real winning attitude.....it will work indefinitely.

Those stupid horse players, they can't quit, they won't take the money elsewhere.....you read, hear and feel this about the industry all the time. I've never heard any other business take this stance.....business model? Are you kidding me? Spit on them they'll keep playing anyway?Guess what? The tipping point on that is being reached. How many more million can it sink? Those crazy horse players, we can milk them for ever. Well guess what? Ole Elsie's teets just ran dry..........

i've said this before but i'll say it again, a gambling addiction counselor i talked with said about 1/2 of the horsebettors are addicted. as long as horsebettors continue to be a glutton for abuse nothing will change, money talks and b-t walks.
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Old 12-05-2014, 01:27 PM   #54
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Everyone is saving their money for Gulfstream.
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Old 12-05-2014, 02:19 PM   #55
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i've said this before but i'll say it again, a gambling addiction counselor i talked with said about 1/2 of the horsebettors are addicted. as long as horsebettors continue to be a glutton for abuse nothing will change, money talks and b-t walks.
I think it's higher than 50%. Everyone (100%) of the horseplayers I used to hang with were addicted. I wonder how they're doing.
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