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12-28-2017, 08:08 PM
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...Just me, but, I think these jackpot-style bets are bad for the sport. Too much possibility exists for collusion or funny-business. Remember the Fix6 and all the bad press around that. Also remember the time Gulfstream stewards DQ'd the lone winner of the Rainbow 6 a few years ago.
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Not just you. Even though this race today looks like an incident that can happen anytime, it's not often that a jock falling off at the wire results in the loss of $500K.
And you'll never, ever convince the person/people who had the in today's Rainbow 6 that is was an "accident"....that's easily a top 10 bad beat of all time....
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12-28-2017, 11:16 PM
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Not just you. Even though this race today looks like an incident that can happen anytime, it's not often that a jock falling off at the wire results in the loss of $500K.
And you'll never, ever convince the person/people who had the in today's Rainbow 6 that is was an "accident"....that's easily a top 10 bad beat of all time....
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Clearly the horse ducked in right out from under the jock.
Who started the current riding style? I wonder if it's really necessary. Lower the stirrups and give the jockeys some leg on the horse and it's far safer and we'd see less falls (including this one).
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12-29-2017, 12:35 AM
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Looks like it is coming up on SVP's Sportscenter "bad beats" in a few mins on ESPN.
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12-29-2017, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Parkview_Pirate
Not just you. Even though this race today looks like an incident that can happen anytime, it's not often that a jock falling off at the wire results in the loss of $500K.
And you'll never, ever convince the person/people who had the in today's Rainbow 6 that is was an "accident"....that's easily a top 10 bad beat of all time....
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I agree. I generally hste bad beat stories (I have seen it all), but this is right up there.
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12-29-2017, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fager Fan
Clearly the horse ducked in right out from under the jock.
Who started the current riding style? I wonder if it's really necessary. Lower the stirrups and give the jockeys some leg on the horse and it's far safer and we'd see less falls (including this one).
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The old saying from the backside was :
" The longer you ride, the longer you ride ."
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12-29-2017, 10:25 AM
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Gulfstream is such a low-class operation.
They don't show the REPLAY after the race.
No explanation given.
No word on the condition of the jockey.
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No track will show a replay when a jock goes down, this is for the safety of the jockey and nothing to do with a cheaply run track as you mentioned.
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12-29-2017, 11:10 AM
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The old saying from the backside was :
" The longer you ride, the longer you ride ."
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So true. The exercise riders tried the new style but have changed back for the most part riding with the irons lower. I guess no jock wants to lead the way in looking "less pretty" than being perched over their withers.
I have wondered if anyone's thought to study the impact of 115 pounds perched over the withers and down the front legs. Maybe that has an impact on front limb fractures.
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12-29-2017, 11:12 AM
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No track will show a replay when a jock goes down, this is for the safety of the jockey and nothing to do with a cheaply run track as you mentioned.
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I'd think it may be out of respect for a possible severely injured jockey as I can't see how showing a replay would be a safety concern.
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12-29-2017, 11:30 AM
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I'd think it may be out of respect for a possible severely injured jockey as I can't see how showing a replay would be a safety concern.
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At the time the race is being run and a jock is injured no one knows for sure if the injury is serious or not, so the tracks, all of them do not show any replays of the incident. I have heard Todd say on TVG this is "for the safety of the jock and the well being of the horse" and it sounded like a good explanation at that time....
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12-29-2017, 11:48 AM
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No track will show a replay when a jock goes down, this is for the safety of the jockey and nothing to do with a cheaply run track as you mentioned.
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California replays spills all the time.
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12-29-2017, 11:50 AM
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At the time the race is being run and a jock is injured no one knows for sure if the injury is serious or not, so the tracks, all of them do not show any replays of the incident. I have heard Todd say on TVG this is "for the safety of the jock and the well being of the horse" and it sounded like a good explanation at that time....
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Yes, but I thought Todd's explanation was weird. Safety? How does showing the replay affect the safety of the jockey? I can see not showing out of respect until it's known that he's ok, but just can't see how it has anything to do with safety.
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12-29-2017, 12:00 PM
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Showing a replay of an accident is seen by some to be catering to fans that might "enjoy" seeing a tragic accident. It started when Joe Theisman had his leg broken on Monday Night Football and they replayed it 20 + times. I still can't watch that.
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12-29-2017, 12:03 PM
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Gulfstream seemed more interested in cutting away to their South America simulcast than informing the public on what happened.
Do they think no one cares?
No mention of the Rainbow 6 being lost because of it by the announcer either.
Just another thing to put on my list of why I can't stand them and won't bet that track.
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12-29-2017, 12:14 PM
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DRF doesn't even mention the incident.
Paulick Report leaves it out of the Headline on the carryover.
Let's just ignore these things.
Is everybody on Stronach's payroll?
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12-29-2017, 12:34 PM
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Just appeared at Paulick. Only took a day. LOL
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