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09-03-2010, 07:59 PM
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Betfair SP for US
Anyone who does play on Betfair, since when did they have the Betfair SP on the US racing? It's been a while since I played on that account and never saw it before.
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09-04-2010, 01:39 AM
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yeah noticed it too.. seems like a new thing
one step closer to in running betting ?
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09-04-2010, 01:43 AM
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Location: Las Vegas
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They don't take U.S accts. Are you guys in U.S.? If so, h ave you found a workaround?
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09-04-2010, 03:14 AM
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There has been in-running available before, but it got canceled because Canadian customers held an unfair advantage. They receive their satellite signal seconds before the European customers did, not to mention the people at the racecourses themselves.
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09-04-2010, 11:10 AM
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BETFAIR’S BURN: IT ISN’T CORRECT TO SAY WE TRIED TO ‘SNEAK’ EXCHANGE WAGERING THROUGH IN CALIFORNIA
http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/be...in-california/
Excerpt:
I do not agree either that we did anything ’shady’ in Australia. Tasmania is as much a part of Australia as Florida is of the United States. And the claim that Betfair has devastated the racing industry in jurisdictions where we have operated is also not true depsite the fact that our commercial opponents regularly make that assertion. In the UK, for example, more money is going into horse racing now - significantly more - than a decade ago when Betfair first started. The combination of statutory levy payments and media rights fees provides record sums for racing. Betfair pays exactly the same % of its revenues as all other betting operators just as it is required to do under the law. The claims we should pay come from the BHA who resent the fact some of the funding now isn’t controlled by them and goes directly to tracks and other recipients.
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09-04-2010, 11:24 AM
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Of course GM, the Brits have a good 15 second advantage over the Canadians when it comes to IR of UK racing, you don't see us complaining.
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09-04-2010, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Gods County, United Kingdom
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Some One
My betfair settings have SP option unchecked so i don't see SP and i can't remember seeing SP option on US before, but on saying that, i really don't pay much attention to whats above market tbh. So it could have been there a while.
I checked Service forum page and can't see any announcements.
Thats all i know, i'm afraid.
Last edited by Charlie D; 09-04-2010 at 11:44 AM.
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09-04-2010, 11:45 AM
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How much is betfair's exchange betting on U.S. races contributing to U.S. racing?
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09-04-2010, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swetyejohn
How much is betfair's exchange betting on U.S. races contributing to U.S. racing?
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Ask NYRA or Betfair John.
Last edited by Charlie D; 09-04-2010 at 11:48 AM.
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09-04-2010, 12:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swetyejohn
How much is betfair's exchange betting on U.S. races contributing to U.S. racing?
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I honestly don't care, if tracks are going to do whats best for the owners and horseman, as I player, I have to do what is best for me, and with a rebate shop like Pinnacle gone now for couple of years, Betfair is the next best option for me to lower my takeout.
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09-04-2010, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie D
Ask NYRA or Betfair John.
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I saw betfair's advertisements at Saratoga. NYRA is getting ad revenue, if nothing else.
So far I can see the following tracks on betfair's betting exchange:
http://horseracing.betfair.com/
Charles Town
Delaware
Del Mar
Evangeline
Golden Gate
Monmouth
MountP -- Mountaineer park?
Penn
Philly
Presque Isle
Saratoga
Woodbine
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09-04-2010, 12:48 PM
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If you Click Forum> Markets Forum. You'll see US racing schedule John.
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09-04-2010, 01:11 PM
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I see they live video of U.S. races. Isn't it ironic that a lot U.S. ADW's don't even offer video!
Are U.S. racetracks selling their signals to betfair? Is betfair sending any of their handle to U.S. racetracks? If not, then U.S. racing is operating on zero revenue from betfair.
So my question is, how can racetracks claim they need to raise takeout when they are already willing to take nothing for betting exchange bets?
There must be more to the picture than I know.
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09-04-2010, 01:17 PM
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No idea regarding those questions John, but Live feed was missing other day, but now it's back and Saratoga Live feed appears some days and is missing others, including today for some reason.
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09-04-2010, 02:14 PM
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Saratoga live feed is up today, its only available usually for 5 or so mins before and after a race, so once it cuts off, select the next race in the menu
And how can they take bets? they are a legal UK bookmaker/licenceholder. Do you think the NFL or FIFA gave them permission to take bets on their sports? However Betfair realizes that its in the best interest of all parties if they have an active relationship with their tracks, for the reasons people like CanGamble has pointed out in the past.
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