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Old 12-26-2018, 09:44 AM   #16
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Persons receiving SS checks are on welfare.
Outright lie.
Shows you know nothing about the topic.
SS was taken out of my paycheck since the day I started working in 1966,
Against my will.

I am entitled to every penny of that that I get back, even if I get double back.
It was a mandatory investment.
It used to be kept in a separate fund, but the good-for-nothing congress changed all that so, like Jimmy Hoffa, they could get their grubby hands on it.
Just because it comes from the government today, it is still rightfully money owed to those who funded it over the years. Plus interest.
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Old 12-26-2018, 09:45 AM   #17
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I wouldn't walk into an AARP convention and say that.They'll beat you within an inch of your life with their walkers and colostomy bags.
Nice way to disrespect people.
AH.

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Is your son afraid of you?
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Old 12-26-2018, 10:00 AM   #18
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Nice way to disrespect people.
AH.

Do you still beat your wife?
Is your son afraid of you?
Gotta bring out the late,great Warren Oates one mo' time.
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Old 12-26-2018, 11:05 AM   #19
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Outright lie.
Shows you know nothing about the topic.
SS was taken out of my paycheck since the day I started working in 1966,
Against my will.

I am entitled to every penny of that that I get back, even if I get double back.
It was a mandatory investment.
It used to be kept in a separate fund, but the good-for-nothing congress changed all that so, like Jimmy Hoffa, they could get their grubby hands on it.
Just because it comes from the government today, it is still rightfully money owed to those who funded it over the years. Plus interest.
Tom, I couldn't agree with you more.

However, the bad news is that LEGALLY, he is right.

Now, before you shoot the messenger (him or me), just remember it is more reason to mistrust both sides of the aisle.
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Old 12-26-2018, 11:39 AM   #20
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Who but the Congress and the Mafia would argue that me getting my money back is their generosity.

I'm sorry, that was mean of me to compare the mafie to government.
I apologize to the mafia.

I always have two word of salvation when it come to our government.
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Old 12-26-2018, 11:49 AM   #21
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Who but the Congress and the Mafia would argue that me getting my money back is their generosity.
That would be the Congress, specifically Section 1104 of the 1935 Social Security Act.
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Old 12-26-2018, 12:04 PM   #22
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SS was taken out of my paycheck since the day I started working in 1966,
Against my will.
Yes, against your will. And the reason they can do that is it's a tax. So says SCOTUS.

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I am entitled to every penny of that that I get back, even if I get double back.
It was a mandatory investment.
That implies a contract between you and the government. SCOTUS says no such contract exists.
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Is the GOVERNMENT on "welfare"...when they prematurely collect our Social Security contributions from us?
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Yes, against your will. And the reason they can do that is it's a tax. So says SCOTUS.

That implies a contract between you and the government. SCOTUS says no such contract exists.
This is just terrible: A guy making sense.

Alas, he speaks truth.

Is it fair? Of course not.

But it is reality.

So, they took our money and can do whatever they want with it.

End of story.
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They forcefully take our money...and then they call us BEGGARS for asking for it back many years later? How can a private CITIZEN get into a racket like that?
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They forcefully take our money...and then they call us BEGGARS for asking for it back many years later? How can a private CITIZEN get into a racket like that?
become a government ... is it really any different than sales tax, property tax, telephone tax, road/fuel tax, airport tax, income tax, medicare tax, ss tax, ... heck they even tax some of every dollar you bet
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become a government ... is it really any different than sales tax, property tax, telephone tax, road/fuel tax, airport tax, income tax, medicare tax, ss tax, ... heck they even tax some of every dollar you bet
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Nice way to disrespect people.
AH.

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What Tom...you didn't get your mirror yet....musta sent it to the wrong address...
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I was quite serious starting this Thread because there are no more Unfunded (future) Liabilities than future income streams.

It's all in the future.
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I was quite serious starting this Thread because there are no more Unfunded (future) Liabilities than future income streams.

It's all in the future.
I have ocean front property in Arizona...can get you a REAL GOOD deal on...
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