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12-31-2018, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOracle
Hey Tri
He has the Deputy today
Code:
pick12-31-20181 12-31-2018 5th race 4 Deputy Zapper (KY) Maiden Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 30/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can get a big price to hit the board today and end the year on a high note!!! |
Persaud was off the board today with the Deputy
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res12-31-20181 12-31-2018 5th race 4 Deputy Zapper (KY) Maiden Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 30/1# Dirt Good 0.0 0.0 0.0
They shot the Sheriff and the Deputy today
Let's keep a sharp eye on him for some big prices!!!
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12-31-2018, 08:50 PM
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I'd be surprised if that info was not obtainable. State licensed officials MUST be transparent in some regards, and bad tests have always been a matter of public record. Just because nobody is eager or volunteers certain info doesn't mean they can legally hide it.
A trainer once threatened to sue me for mentioning his bad test on the show, but I stood pat without rendering the apology demanded in stead of the lawsuit. I was certain it could be quickly established in court that positive tests, details put out there for consumption, or not, are a matter of public record.
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12-31-2018, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Track Phantom
Surprised nobody has mentioned this (or maybe they did and I missed it).
Randi Persaud's last 7 starters (57% win, 71% ITM) :
WIN: 67-1
WIN: 21-1
WIN: 9-1
WIN: 15-1
2nd: 115-1
OUT
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The 185 starters she had before that (all the farther I went back):
3 wins (1.62%) and 17 in the money (9.19%)
On Sunday, the winners of the last two races were her horses (both the #13) at 67-1 and 21-1. With the 13 winning the first leg, the Daily Double combination 13/13 was the second lowest $456 to the 13/7 (7 was the 1/2 favorite). The morning line odds on the two winners were 30-1 and 50-1.
Anyone care to opine on the new training methods? Just coincidental? The betting on the last double also coincidental?
By the way, she has a starter in the 6th on Friday, a 2nd timer getting L1 and blinkers.
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Taking care to not vilify any particular trainer, I will state an EXTREME skepticism about sudden hot streaks experienced by otherwise obscure outfits. For years I've seen purse forfeitures cross my desk incurred by 6% horsemen riding 8 for 12 streaks.
That's one reason I preach the value of short term cycles as opposed to stale, over-exposed, and over-bet long range records. Making money from the trainer-factor needn't always require formulator or some labor-intensive study of individual methods. Sometimes just observing which weak barns have shown recent signs of life-and which strong barns have run up the track with a low chalk, or two- can lead to a score.
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01-01-2019, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mountainman
Taking care to not vilify any particular trainer, I will state an EXTREME skepticism about sudden hot streaks experienced by otherwise obscure outfits. For years I've seen purse forfeitures cross my desk incurred by 6% horsemen riding 8 for 12 streaks.
That's one reason I preach the value of short term cycles as opposed to stale, over-exposed, and over-bet long range records. Making money from the trainer-factor needn't always require formulator or some labor-intensive study of individual methods. Sometimes just observing which weak barns have shown recent signs of life-and which strong barns have run up the track with a low chalk, or two- can lead to a score.
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Hey Mountain
I like that, the Trainer Factor, I will use it as well
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01-01-2019, 09:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Persaud was off the board today with the Deputy
Code:
res12-31-20181 12-31-2018 5th race 4 Deputy Zapper (KY) Maiden Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 30/1# Dirt Good 0.0 0.0 0.0
They shot the Sheriff and the Deputy today
Let's keep a sharp eye on him for some big prices!!! |
Persaud has this today in the 9th race today at Aqueduct
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pick01-01-20191 01-01-2019 9th race 2 King Kranz (KY) Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 10/1# Dirt
He's bringing the King back
Hopefully he can hit the board and score for a price!!!
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01-01-2019, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Persaud has this today in the 9th race today at Aqueduct
Code:
pick01-01-20191 01-01-2019 9th race 2 King Kranz (KY) Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 10/1# Dirt
He's bringing the King back
Hopefully he can hit the board and score for a price!!! |
Why hopefully? You betting him?
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01-01-2019, 08:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Persaud has this today in the 9th race today at Aqueduct
Code:
pick01-01-20191 01-01-2019 9th race 2 King Kranz (KY) Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 10/1# Dirt
He's bringing the King back
Hopefully he can hit the board and score for a price!!! |
The King was scratched today for Persaud!!!
Let's continue to watch his barn maybe a few will pop for a big price!!!
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01-04-2019, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
The King was scratched today for Persaud!!!
Let's continue to watch his barn maybe a few will pop for a big price!!!
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Persaud has this today at Aqueduct in the 8th race
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pick01-04-20191 01-04-2019 8th race 2 Flying Pleasantly (KY) Maiden Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 20/1# Dirt
Hopefully he will hit the board with this one for a price!!!
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01-04-2019, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mountainman
I'd be surprised if that info was not obtainable. State licensed officials MUST be transparent in some regards, and bad tests have always been a matter of public record. Just because nobody is eager or volunteers certain info doesn't mean they can legally hide it.
A trainer once threatened to sue me for mentioning his bad test on the show, but I stood pat without rendering the apology demanded in stead of the lawsuit. I was certain it could be quickly established in court that positive tests, details put out there for consumption, or not, are a matter of public record.
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Most (maybe all - I can't be sure) tracks or Racing Commissions will give you information on violations if you ask. Some have it on a web site. You just have to know where to look.
You might remember a trainer named Chris Grove. Had horses stabled in West Virginia, Maryland, and Pennsylvania. I did an article on him. Everybody I contacted talked with me, and although the West Virginia people never refused to give me information, they wouldn't write or call back. You might remember Phil Grove, his dad, who was a prominent jockey in the Mid-Atlantic.
I've picked on a few racing commissions. Nobody has threatened to sue me yet.
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01-05-2019, 12:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Persaud has this today at Aqueduct in the 8th race
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pick01-04-20191 01-04-2019 8th race 2 Flying Pleasantly (KY) Maiden Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 20/1# Dirt
Hopefully he will hit the board with this one for a price!!! |
Persaud finished off the board today
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res01-04-20191 01-04-2019 8th race 2 Flying Pleasantly (KY) Maiden Claiming Six Furlongs R Persaud 20/1# Dirt Fast 0.0 0.0 0.0
Let's continue to watch his barn!!!
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01-05-2019, 01:18 AM
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Persaud has a couple at Aqueduct Saturday:
1st race #2 - Irish Glitter 30/1 ml
3rd race #4 - Sarah's Rainbow 20/1 ml
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01-05-2019, 08:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trifecta
Persaud has a couple at Aqueduct Saturday:
1st race #2 - Irish Glitter 30/1 ml
3rd race #4 - Sarah's Rainbow 20/1 ml
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Hey Tri
Thanks
Let's see what he does today hopefully he'll hit the board for a price!!!
Last edited by TheOracle; 01-05-2019 at 08:49 AM.
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01-05-2019, 11:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Hey Tri
Thanks
Let's see what he does today hopefully he'll hit the board for a price!!!
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Persaud has these today
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pick01-05-20191 01-05-2019 1st race 6 Reyana Reya Dreams (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt
pick01-05-20192 01-05-2019 3rd race 4 Sarahs Rainbow (NY) Maiden Special Weight One Mile R Persaud 20/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can get these to hit the board at a price!!!
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01-05-2019, 09:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Persaud has these today
Code:
pick01-05-20191 01-05-2019 1st race 6 Reyana Reya Dreams (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt
pick01-05-20192 01-05-2019 3rd race 4 Sarahs Rainbow (NY) Maiden Special Weight One Mile R Persaud 20/1# Dirt
Let's see if he can get these to hit the board at a price!!! |
Persaud was off the board with these
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res01-05-20191 01-05-2019 1st race 6 Reyana Reya Dreams (NY) Maiden Claiming One Mile R Persaud 30/1# Dirt Sloppy 0.0 0.0 0.0
res01-05-20192 01-05-2019 3rd race 4 Sarahs Rainbow (NY) Maiden Special Weight One Mile R Persaud 20/1# Dirt Sloppy 0.0 0.0 0.0
Let's continue to watch his barn hopefully one of his will pop for a price!!!
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01-05-2019, 09:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOracle
Let's continue to watch his barn hopefully one of his will pop for a price!!!
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Again, since you ignored me, why hopefully? You being these horses?
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