Behind the scenes handicapping angles.

[Citation33]

Since Jan 2008:
Which NY trainer is 8/13 when adding weight with heavy jock in his post layoffs workouts on his good horses.

Which trainer is 14/24 when using a certain jockey in his 2-3 prep races and then switching to this jock for a certain trip?

Which trainer appears to have their workout jock come slow of the gate on his gate workouts on his good and ready first timers and then has them turn it on in the end? What appears to be a slow gate work is really not. Hit's big time on this angle.

Which trainer tells his jockey on his just about ready to score maiden horses to ride a certain pattern in the race as a last conditioner before coming back to score next time out. 9/16

Majority of these are not even heavy favorites(although very few are big longshots),because the hidden form and angles.

[Tom Barrister]

Did you want me to post answers to any of those, so that everybody knows?

[tribecaagent]

Originally Posted by Citation33

Since Jan 2008:
Which NY trainer is 8/13 when adding weight with heavy jock in his post layoffs workouts on his good horses.

Which trainer is 14/24 when using a certain jockey in his 2-3 prep races and then switching to this jock for a certain trip?

Which trainer appears to have their workout jock come slow of the gate on his gate workouts on his good and ready first timers and then has them turn it on in the end? What appears to be a slow gate work is really not. Hit's big time on this angle.

Which trainer tells his jockey on his just about ready to score maiden horses to ride a certain pattern in the race as a last conditioner before coming back to score next time out. 9/16

Majority of these are not even heavy favorites(although very few are big longshots),because the hidden form and angles.

Am I correct to assume that a) these are NY trainers and b) each question has a DIFFERENT trainer?

[HolyBull29]

Damn these trainers and their tricks! LOL. Those are hard unless you have connections. Care to share? LOL

[Citation33]

Yeah they are all different trainers,and they are NY.

[Citation33]

Nice workouts that Dutrow horse had today in the 5TH! Good workouts for those post layoff works with a heavy jock. Got the call on who was working him out in those sprints. Blew right by the field at 9-1!

$500 win and $5 ex over a couple horses including the #1.

Can't believe all the reads and no one tried to guess the answers. Did'nt get to PM anybody. Oh well

[njcurveball]

Originally Posted by Citation33

$500 win and $5 ex over a couple horses including the #1.

Congrats! Must feel good to make $5,000 in a day! Easy Game!

[Citation33]

Originally Posted by njcurveball

Congrats! Must feel good to make $5,000 in a day! Easy Game!

Would'nt say easy game. I only bet about 10 times on month heavy on spot plays when they come up. I wish it was every day . Unfortunatly they don't happen every day. You have to wait for them. I do play at the track every day though,but it's usually just about $10-20 a race for fun.

[TheGhost]

Cit you are the man. Thanks again for the pick at the track today,and thanks for laughing when I said I did'nt play the exacta aaaaaaahhh!
P.S. Thanks for turning me onto this forum too.

[Citation33]

Originally Posted by TheGhost

Cit you are the man. Thanks again for the pick at the track today,and thanks for laughing when I said I did'nt play the exacta aaaaaaahhh!
P.S. Thanks for turning me onto this forum too.

Hey,thanks for the beer.

[tribecaagent]

Originally Posted by Citation33

Nice workouts that Dutrow horse had today in the 5TH! Good workouts for those post layoff works with a heavy jock. Got the call on who was working him out in those sprints. Blew right by the field at 9-1!

$500 win and $5 ex over a couple horses including the #1.

Can't believe all the reads and no one tried to guess the answers. Did'nt get to PM anybody. Oh well

Nice work Citation. Some much for Prado being Dutrow's "man." Looks like Cornelio is "the man" when "the money's down!"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/sp...=1&oref=slogin

Here are my answers for the other 3:
1) Rick Dutrow Jr. - of course!
2) Jimmie Jerkens
3) Mike Hushion
4) Bobby Barbara

[Grits]

Originally Posted by Citation33

Nice workouts that Dutrow horse had today in the 5TH! Good workouts for those post layoff works with a heavy jock. Got the call on who was working him out in those sprints. Blew right by the field at 9-1!

$500 win and $5 ex over a couple horses including the #1.

Did'nt get to PM anybody. Oh well

I give you guys, the Ultimate Redboard with apologies to the less fortunate.

Makes the thread title more appropriate.

Hilarious.

[Grits]

Citation, so you won't feel I'm hammering you-- let me ask, next time please switch your handicapping exercise that leads the thread to a couple of hours after you post your big play.

[Citation33]

First of all. I WAS posting about angles that happen all the time that trainers use without the betting public knowing. I have worked behind the track for over 15 years. I was asking fun questions about who do you think wins these types of races. OVER 300 people read and no one answered except one person. TOO bad. I WAS going to PM(I did PM 1 here) the people who got the answers right but no one answered. Maybe people just believe in pace and numbers and thought nothing of the post. Acting like 25 people were guessing and whatever and I held out and then posted a win(which did fit my description). No one answered the thread.
I also did give out the pick to a forum poster I know from here who was at the track. Redboard my butt. No one even cared about the post.

[Citation33]

Question? Why did'nt you try and answer them whenever you read the post? Was it just after one of them won you got mad?

Sorry but Dutrow put on his heavy jock this time for his post layoff works,which were very good. The horse was a good horse with good competitive numbers in his past. Did'nt put on Prado and tip off bettors,which was good too.

But if my trivia and this thread is such a problem,then I'll stop doing it or PM'ing people,because I have offended you.