Global Warming, Make That Climate Change Yeah

[davew]

Originally Posted by chrisl

10,000 years ago Chicago was under 1500 feet of ice.(Laurentide Ice Sheet) and yet 5,000 years ago it was down to only 50 feet. Remember the MAN MADE Industrial revolution didn't start until 1850.

During the Eemian Interglacial Period, which was the warm period between the last two Ice Ages, temperatures were much warmer and sea levels between 27 to 34 feet higher than today's Holocene Period. Not saying man doesn't contribute a very small percentage.

Solar Activity, the wobble in the Earth's orbit, Volcanic activity, natural seafloor methane releases and dozens of other contributors, which we have zero control of, are the largest contributors of a climate cycle that has gone on long before our ability to record these changes.

hcap has debunked these theories as not being part of recorded history

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by davew

hcap has debunked these theories as not being part of recorded history

Who is Hcap?

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by thezeeman333

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment,.
The woman apologized to the young girl and explained, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days."
The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."
The older lady said that she was right our generation didn't have the "green thing" in its day. The older lady went on to explain: Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled.
But we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day. Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags that we reused for numerous things. Most memorable besides household garbage bags was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our school books. This was to ensure that public property (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.
But, too bad we didn't do the "green thing" back then. We walked up stairs because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the "green thing" in our day.
Back then we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts. Wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days.
Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.
Back then we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana.
In the kitchen we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us.
When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap.
Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power.
We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right; we didn't have the "green thing" back then.
We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blade in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the "green thing" back then.
Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service in the family's $45,000 SUV or van, which cost what a whole house did before the "green thing."
We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.
But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the "green thing" back then?
Please forward this on to another selfish old person who needs a lesson in conservation from a smart ass young person. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to piss us off... Especially from a tattooed, multiple pierced smart ass who can't make change without the cash register telling them how much.

Points.

[jimmyb]

Originally Posted by chrisl

Who is Hcap?

[woodtoo]

50 years and hundreds of doomsday climate predictions.....and not even one correct! No wonder people are not fooled.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by rastajenk

Of course science can be used in political ways. Always has been. Even math has been called a relic of the Patriarchy and a tool for White Supremacy.

Careful casting false equivalencies

Religion was used to launch wars. Hopefully both religion and science has outgrown Fanaticism. Right now however, the uber-right wing climate denying echo chamber consists mostly of a cottage industry that manipulates facts and manufactures doubt.

The science and math of AGW are constantly checked, verified and updated by the world's scientific organizations, agencies and universities. Your echo chamber represents a minuscule faulty part of the larger picture. And it inevitably falls apart badly under peer review.and professional climatologists criticism.

The preponderance of the evidence is absolutely not in your corner.
Sorry

[reckless]

Originally Posted by woodtoo

50 years and hundreds of doomsday climate predictions.....and not even one correct! No wonder people are not fooled.

Only idiots, clowns, common sense deniers and those that benefit in political power and weath confiscation promote and buy into this global warming nonsense and charade.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by chrisl

Who is Hcap?

hcap is "Debunky"

[hcap]

Originally Posted by thezeeman333

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older lady that she should bring her own grocery bags, because plastic bags are not good for the environment,.
The woman apologized to the young girl and explained, "We didn't have this 'green thing' back in my earlier days."
The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."
The older lady said that she was right our generation didn't have the "green thing" in its day. The older lady went on to explain: Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were recycled...................................
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So what? Back then we only knew a small part of the picture.

The green thing is an experiment in the works. Back then we didn't have 170 mph street ready electric sports cars returning the equivalent of 104+mpg. A major increase of renewables over the last 5-10 years soon about to replace a good portion of the fossil fuel industry.

And back then no mullions of kids marching , organizing, totally aware of something must be done.

Things change

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

And back then no mullions of kids marching , organizing, totally aware of something must be done.

Things change

And yet doing nothing to actually walk the walk.
The primary goal Friday was a day off. Nothing more.
But have fun reliving your hippy dippy daze.
btw, stay away from the brown acid.

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

And yet doing nothing to actually walk the walk.
The primary goal Friday was a day off. Nothing more.
But have fun reliving your hippy dippy daze.
btw, stay away from the brown acid.

Far out

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by reckless

You're a vile lunatic who continues to shame your family and this web site.

I see the name calling has been cut down since I last posted about it.

Another genius who said he was leaving but couldn't stay away. Thanks for keeping me in business for 20 years.

[jimmyb]

The Global Warming Thought Police Want Skeptics In 'Jail'



The urge to prosecute and imprison those who don't believe as they have been commanded to is not a new wrinkle among the alarmist tribe. Three years ago, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., sounding like, well, a Kennedy, said the Koch brothers "should be in jail, I think they should be enjoying three hots and a cot at The Hague with all the other war criminals."


"Do I think the Koch brothers should be tried for reckless endangerment? Absolutely, that is a criminal offense and they ought to be serving time for it."


The Kochs' crime? Selling energy resources to willing buyers and funding organizations that have reservations about the climate change story we're constantly being told.


Maybe the worst case of zealotry from one who refuses to see his own intolerance is British funnyman Eric Idle, who tweeted earlier this year that the skeptics who hold their position due to "stupidity and ignorance" should be punished "humanely. Put down gently."


https://www.investors.com/politics/c...ptics-in-jail/

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by hcap

And back then no mullions of kids marching , organizing, totally aware of something must be done.

Things change

Millions of children are marching because they've been "brain washed" by teachers.
Children are not allowed to challenge the "Climate Change" Gospel that you frequently recite. Critical thinking about Climate Change is discouraged.
Some of those kids can't even read the signs they are carrying.
The "Socialists" who want to "transform" America's Government have to be very happy how effective the indoctrination of the children has been. Those kids are the future. When they are old enough they'll blindly vote against Capitalism.

[boxcar]

Killing the Unborn, Confessing to Plants

If not, allow me to borrow a gent's poem to help any religious greenies on this forum to get motivated to 'fess up to Mudder Nature.

I confess my unbelief
To my leafy brethren
I’ve given you such grief
While you give me oxygen

Like a prodigal come home
An errant journey I was on
Now no more to roam
I’ll no longer mow my lawn.

https://townhall.com/columnists/mich...lants-n2553418