Global Warming, Make That Climate Change Yeah

[classhandicapper]

The current global population of polar bears is estimated to be around 26,000. The bears use the ice as a platform to hunt seals, the fat-rich prey they depend on to get through the long Arctic winter.

Well, if it's going to be warmer maybe they won't have to hunt as many fat rich seals to get through the long Arctic winter. They can hang out with some grizzlies and eat a variety of fruits, nuts, insects, small rodents etc... that will become more plentiful in the warmer Arctic climate.

[hcap]

I really don't know what all the fuss is about. The whole problem is easily fixed on both sides. We can adjust the science, and presto-chango no problemos. King Donald the False "stumbled" on the solution......

Although incorrectly claiming that Hurricane Dorian would hit Alabama..... A slip of the sharpie probably cause by watching too much fox and friends, or maybe falling asleep in his tanning booth, he figured simply adjusting his boo boo by forcing scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to parrot his humble bunble, and VOILA,.....change the science. No muss, no fuss.

Think about it, no more "deniers" or "alarmists" As foreseen by one of King Donald's associate propagandists, Kellyanne Conway.
An alternative reality with a set of "alternative facts"!!!.

No if only the remaining paranoid conspiracy theories popular on off topic were so amenable to that kind of easy fix!

[davew]

since you mention adjusted data, here are some interesting graph and charts - 61%

https://realclimatescience.com/2019/...a-is-now-fake/

[hcap]

Originally Posted by davew

since you mention adjusted data, here are some interesting graph and charts - 61%

https://realclimatescience.com/2019/...a-is-now-fake/

From your site.....

.61% Of NOAA USHCN Adjusted Temperature Data Is Now Fake..Posted on February 11, 2019 by tonyheller

The vast majority of high quality long-term temperature data comes from the US, and in fact much of the planet has little or no long-term temperature data. Because of the poor coverage, it is doubtful that the published global temperature record has any scientific validity. The US is one of very few places with reliable temperature data.

This is a goddam fake POS stony by a goddam fake POS writer.

1- He presents no accurate evidence. With a glaring omission.
2-It is totally destroyed by thousands of peer reviewed papers and real climatologists working in the field

3-Hwe draws on a paper that states....

There are three main global temperature histories: the combined CRU-Hadley record (HADCRU), the NASA-GISS (GISTEMP) record, and the NOAA record. All three global averages depend on the same underlying land data archive, the Global Historical Climatology Network (GHCN). Because of this reliance on GHCN, its quality deficiencies will constrain the quality of all derived products.

The number of weather stations providing data to GHCN plunged in 1990 and again in 2005. The sample size has fallen by over 75% from its peak in the early 1970s, and is now smaller than at any time since 1919. The collapse in sample size has increased the relative fraction of data coming from airports to about 50 percent (up from about 30 percent in the 1970s). It has also reduced the average latitude of source data and removed relatively more high-altitude monitoring sites.

Bull! Even if this was true, what about the vast network of satellites?

Hundreds of kilometres above the Earth’s surface, a vast network of satellites is collecting data to help us better understand the climate system.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/interact...climate-change.

And last but not least. How come Heller uses an acronym?


4- Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), producer of the www.realclimatescience.com website is not a climate scientist, former or otherwise. His qualifications are a Bachelors degree in Geology, and a Masters in Electrical Engineering. So far as I can determine, he has never published a peer reviewed paper of any description. He is well known as a serial misreprenter of data, a prime example of of wrong idiocy popular on this thread.

Question dave. Did you even read any of this?

And another question for all you skeptics. Why are your sources and data always demonstrably wrong and incomplete?

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by hcap

This is a goddam fake POS stony by a goddam fake POS writer.

Why so angry bro? Is this what happens when someone takes your Lord's name in vain?

[davew]

Originally Posted by hcap

From your site.....This is a goddam fake POS stony by a goddam fake POS writer.

1- He presents no accurate evidence. With a glaring omission.
2-It is totally destroyed by thousands of peer reviewed papers and real climatologists working in the field

3-Hwe draws on a paper that states....
Bull! Even if this was true, what about the vast network of satellites?

Hundreds of kilometres above the Earth’s surface, a vast network of satellites is collecting data to help us better understand the climate system.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/interact...climate-change.

And last but not least. How come Heller uses an acronym?


4- Tony Heller (aka Steven Goddard), producer of the www.realclimatescience.com website is not a climate scientist, former or otherwise. His qualifications are a Bachelors degree in Geology, and a Masters in Electrical Engineering. So far as I can determine, he has never published a peer reviewed paper of any description. He is well known as a serial misreprenter of data, a prime example of of wrong idiocy popular on this thread.

Question dave. Did you even read any of this?

And another question for all you skeptics. Why are your sources and data always demonstrably wrong and incomplete?

why read it when they have such nice graphs and charts?

data 'correction' is an issue that only dimwit cult followers do not recognize.


PS I think I will take a day off to protest with the NYC kids

[hcap]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Why so angry bro? Is this what happens when someone takes your Lord's name in vain?

Simply stated. All deniers, or if you like... skeptics, are posting nonsense. I could ignore all their bull but then you self-congratulation Trumpites would just give each other more cheap positive rep points, jump up, and down, cheer and believe you folks are always right again.

Mike, for an educated man, a knowledgeable programmer, I would have expended you to have more respect for science.

What happened?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by hcap

Simply stated. All deniers, or if you like... skeptics, are posting nonsense. I could ignore all their bull but then you self-congratulation Trumpites would just give each other more cheap positive rep points, jump up, and down, cheer and believe you folks are always right again.

Mike, for an educated man, a knowledgeable programmer, I would have expended you to have more respect for science.

What happened?

This really eats at you, doesn't it?
ME too. The system is flawed.
What is the point of you having hundreds of red points if all wee see is 0?

Serious question, what is the mechanism in your great plan to re-freeze the Arctic?

[hcap]

Originally Posted by Tom

This really eats at you, doesn't it?
ME too. The system is flawed.
What is the point of you having hundreds of red points if all wee see is 0?

Serious question, what is the mechanism in your great plan to re-freeze the Arctic?

More nonsense by the king of nonsense.

Btw, thanks for the neg rep points. Guess minus 1000 is truly reachable thanks to you

[hcap]

Geed minus 600 right now!

Tom, busy, busy, busy

[Tom]

I cannot take any credit - you EARNED every one of them!

[reckless]

Originally Posted by hcap

I really don't know what all the fuss is about. The whole problem is easily fixed on both sides. We can adjust the science, and presto-chango no problemos. King Donald the False "stumbled" on the solution......

You are the global warming zealot and lunatic in this entire fake and idiotic climate change discussion.

And a two bit phony for your cause as well. You are not an environmentalist; you are a fraud, a cowardly fraud.

A reminder:

China and India are the world's biggest threats to the environment and the survival of the World as the leading polluters on earth. They are a true threat to our air, water and a clean way of life.

Would you declare war --or support a president that would-- on these two countries on the grounds they are an existential threat to the world's environment?

[jimmyb]

Al Gore presents more proof of global warming.



Piles of salt are all that's left of the Arctic Ocean.

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Celebrating Christmas on a beach in the Aleutians with my new bestie.

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All the Glaciers have disappeared

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These are the two geological scientists I most confer with. How dare anyone disagree them.

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Taking in a womens ice hockey game. Why so many pucks?

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[jocko699]

Originally Posted by Tom

I cannot take any credit - you EARNED every one of them!

Yes he did!!!

[xtb]

So if many temperature stations now are at airports and cities and we now have "a vast network of satellites" collecting data, one has to ask "How many airports and satellites were there in 1919?

Ever hear of a "heat island"?

https://weather.com/science/weather-...suburbs-cooler