The Official Trump Collapsing Thread

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by fast4522

Everything you espouse has been done and now something else is in the works. Your just the commercial that will be played on television that will fail, lets just see how the next two election cycles play out.

Again nothing substantive just more personal attacks.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by fast4522

Lets be really real here, President Donald J. Trump is going to stick it to China.

How is he going to stick it to China? The same kind of tariffs in the past have stuck it to American consumers and to American businesses. There is no difference in these tariffs, so why would there be any difference in the results?

Those in favor of these tariffs have presented no evidence or argument that China will be hurt, and no evidence or argument that Americans will not be hurt.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by fast4522

President Donald J. Trump has achieved 63% of his agenda goals inside of his first year, there is plenty of time for that old slag.

Rubio blasts Trump budget for ObamaCare 'bailout' provision

Yup he's got bailout provisions.

Trump’s Budget Proposal Projects Big Jump in Deficits

Doubled the deficit year one as well...

Mnuchin Says Trump ‘Willing’ to Negotiate U.S. Return to TPP

"Oh wait... we don't want to be on the outside looking in."

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Clocker

How is he going to stick it to China? The same kind of tariffs in the past have stuck it to American consumers and to American businesses. There is no difference in these tariffs, so why would there be any difference in the results?

Those in favor of these tariffs have presented no evidence or argument that China will be hurt, and no evidence or argument that Americans will not be hurt.

Exactly who is going to be hurt, those quantification will be made clear over the next decade, your going apeshit over nothing. When you get hurt please tell us, maybe we will care.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Rubio blasts Trump budget for ObamaCare 'bailout' provision

The ACA is high priority for elimination, watch how systematically the Congress does this.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by fast4522

Exactly who is going to be hurt, those quantification will be made clear over the next decade, your going apeshit over nothing. When you get hurt please tell us, maybe we will care.

Still dodging the question. These tariffs in the past have always hurt Americans more than they hurt the targeted country. Tariffs on steel always increase the price to consumers of things made with steel. Tariffs on steel always hurt jobs at companies that make things out of steel. How will the same old tariffs be any different this time?

Insanity is repeating the same action while expecting a different result.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by fast4522

The ACA is high priority for elimination, watch how systematically the Congress does this.

You mean like when they did last year?

[Clocker]

Trump is just getting warmed up. The next target is the E.U.

BTW, the E.U. will be hurt by Trump's new tariffs, and they are already talking about retaliatory tariffs on American products.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
If the E.U. wants to further increase their already massive tariffs and barriers on U.S. companies doing business there, we will simply apply a Tax on their Cars which freely pour into the U.S. They make it impossible for our cars (and more) to sell there. Big trade imbalance!
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[fast4522]

Clocker,

I just do not think your question is going to get that much national attention or support for your side of this issue. I think it is more of a consumption tariff that will be imposed and hurt countries outside these United States, granted it might harm Walmart big time in billions in profits to the heir's of Sam Walton but few will care about those folks.

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Trump is just getting warmed up. The next target is the E.U.

BTW, the E.U. will be hurt by Trump's new tariffs, and they are already talking about retaliatory tariffs on American products.

F*%ck the EU and get the popcorn going, that dumpster fire can be watched on CNN.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by fast4522

Clocker,

I just do not think your question is going to get that much national attention or support for your side of this issue.

Increasing consumer prices and lost American jobs won't get national attention?

You don't think the lefty media will fall all over themselves pinning that on Trump?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Increasing consumer prices and lost American jobs won't get national attention?

You don't think the lefty media will fall all over themselves pinning that on Trump?

The next two election cycles will be about the growing economy I think, the Europeans have NO play and no matter what they say now. If they want access into our economy they are going to have to pay, if they go hardball they will lose big time and they know this.

[reckless]

Originally Posted by Clocker

Trump is just getting warmed up. The next target is the E.U.

BTW, the E.U. will be hurt by Trump's new tariffs, and they are already talking about retaliatory tariffs on American products.

What people refuse to understand is that Trump knows what he speaks and does, while his political detractors are all part of the corrupt globalist system -- which is to get over on the USA economically, thanks mostly to the corrupt GOP elites of the past.

So who are those Trump detractors on today's media web pages and TV screens? John Kasich, Lindsay Graham, the EU, Jimmy Kimmel...

Unphased, the U.S. President fired back on Twitter: “If the EU wants to further increase their already massive tariffs and barriers on U.S. companies doing business there, we will simply apply a Tax on their Cars which freely pour into the U.S.,” he wrote.

“They make it impossible for our cars (and more) to sell there. Big trade imbalance!”

While the mainstream media in Britain and Europe has gone out of its way to paint President Trump’s proposed aluminium and steel tariffs as unreasonable, it is true that the EU imposes tariffs of 10 per cent on American cars, while the U.S. imposes tariffs of just 2.5 per cent on EU-made cars — making American cars more expensive for British consumers and hurting American exporters.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018...ley-davidsons/

What the hate Trump crowd refuses to accept is that Trump and his America First agenda is dealing from strength while the EU and the others are not. Trump has history and the importance of the moment on his side. And a huge majority of American citizens as well.

Any retaliatory tariffs by the EU aimed at the USA will actually result in a very big YAWN when all is said and done.

Point of reference: the part I quoted above may have come from the same article that clocker quoted a few posts back. I just bolded the really good stuff.

[elysiantraveller]

Except most of those cars are already manufactured here...

Just like our domestics made outside of the US that compete there.

This isn't a "hate Trump" thing as much as its bad economic policy. Nobody agrees his view on trade. Why is he suddenly warming up to TPP? Because he was wrong.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

Except most of those cars are already manufactured here...

Just like our domestics made outside of the US that compete there.

Exactly. A big reason Ford and others are building cars in Mexico is that a lot of countries have much lower tariffs on a car imported from Mexico than the same car imported from the US.