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07-25-2016, 12:49 PM
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Yes, up from what, 10, 15 a week ago? 
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07-25-2016, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Valuist
I hear Nate Silver's most recent electoral map has Trump with 57% of the vote.
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No, it shows Hillary with 271 electoral votes (46.1% of the popular vote) and Trump with 261 (44.8%).
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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07-25-2016, 01:28 PM
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Clinton is coming off a crap weekend as part of a crap month.IF the convention goes off smooth(no guarantee) that should bump her up a little.
But it's the debates that will be the key.Whoever doesn't screw them up wins the election.Win by not losing, no turnovers.
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07-25-2016, 01:59 PM
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But Trump didn't get any bounce from his speech. 
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07-25-2016, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Clocker
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He has 2 projections on his site, polls only and polls plus. He also has the "now cast" which projects electoral votes only on the latest polls.
You posted the polls only on your first link and the now cast on your second. Nothing has changed other than you toggled to a different measure.
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07-25-2016, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by _______
He has 2 projections on his site, polls only and polls plus. He also has the "now cast" which projects electoral votes only on the latest polls.
You posted the polls only on your first link and the now cast on your second. Nothing has changed other than you toggled to a different measure.
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The "How the Odds Changed" chart certainly shows a change.
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07-25-2016, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
The "How the Odds Changed" chart certainly shows a change.
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No doubt. Trump is doing much better on all the measures. But nothing changed in the 16 minutes between Clocker's two responses other than his link. You can toggle between the 3 projections on either of them. He wasn't wrong in his first response. It's just different measures.
Now cast is the most volatile. Polls plus the least.
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07-26-2016, 10:18 AM
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He was in the bag all along (shill) it's just that the younger people made it a movement (cause) and it went further then intended by the left, so with a little help from the DNC it was stopped. The Hag was holding the best cards the whole time she couldn't lose. Now the question is if Sanders can move his fans to her ?.........
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07-26-2016, 10:23 AM
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Sanders was not in the bag all along.
He drove Hillary to move left.
Several of his ideas are now part of the Democrat Platform.
The question is: "Who will pay for the socialist ideas that Sanders insisted be embedded in the platform?"
Some day the National Debt chickens will come home to roost and that will be the legacy of Bush, Obama, and quite possibly Clinton which future generations will have to bear.
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07-26-2016, 11:29 AM
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If he still has that bag, put it over Hillary's head, please.
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07-26-2016, 12:16 PM
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That was then; this is now. Sanders was not booed when he spoke at the convention. The Bernie Bros are coming over to Clinton by the hour. By the end of the convention there will no Bernie Bros left.
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07-26-2016, 12:37 PM
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By the end of the convention there will no Bernie Bros left.
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That's right, because Bernie sold them out. They will either join Bernie and throw away their principles and capitulate, or just give up on the process and the party.
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07-26-2016, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
That was then; this is now. Sanders was not booed when he spoke at the convention. The Bernie Bros are coming over to Clinton by the hour. By the end of the convention there will no Bernie Bros left.
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Not the Bernie backer who was on CNN this morning. As much as the Dem Party establishment hacks tried to bring him on board, he was more in line the GOP strategist they had on the panel.
If you care about polls, they showed a poll where only 64 % of Bernie voters will be voting for Hillary. Let's be clear, those are not 64% of Independents, those are 64% of voters the Dems had in their hip pocket had they not proven to the world what Donald Trump and Bernie The Hypocrite said all along, the Dems rigged the game.
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