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Old 11-15-2015, 01:35 AM   #1
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Rousey gets KO'd

In the second round at that. This is an absolute monumental upset.
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:53 AM   #2
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In the second round at that. This is an absolute monumental upset.
Given Holm's background and the odds I slightly disagree. When I seen that Rousey was only -2000 I became very suspicious. Not saying that its not an upset because I really don't know that much about MMA but from what i've been reading and hearing on TV, people in the know wouldn't shut up about how much of a better corner Holm has and that she could throw down. Holm was also undefeated (MMA) coming into the fight and only had a few losses in boxing (33-2-3). I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Rousey makes a change to her corner.
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Old 11-15-2015, 07:29 AM   #3
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I disagree as well. The surprise for me would have been Rousey winning. Holm is very good too. Rousey is good, but has been mightily distracted recently and that is never good when training. You could tell her preparation for the match was subpar. She had no answer for the left jab. The line was begging you to put your cash on Rousey.
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Old 11-15-2015, 08:54 AM   #4
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It surprised me. Not too many rise to the top with a boxing/ kick boxing background. They're usually at a huge disadvantage in the clinches, though I've heard she had pretty good takedown defense. Holm was tremendous from the word go and even managed a takedown of Rousey. I don't think anyone expected that, other than people in her own camp.
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Old 11-15-2015, 10:50 AM   #5
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Just taking a wild guess that Rousey might want to put that Mayweather fight on hold.....
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Old 11-15-2015, 11:31 AM   #6
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The surprise for me would have been Rousey winning.
That says much about your knowledge, or lack thereof, on odds and betting.
To say that you would be shocked had a 1-20 favorite won borders on insane.

There was no "begging for money" as if "the fix" was in.
Bookmakers need to try to balance the action on events.
The $20-100 bettor never even contemplates betting 1-20, or -2000.
When they are getting 10, or 12-1, on the underdog, the liability
for the bookie rises pretty fast.
The -2000 probably went a fair bit lower than that.
The reason? Supply and demand - balancing the books. Nothing more.

I know nothing about MMA, and that's by choice.
I have worked with odds on both sides of the counter for many years.
Booking head to head events, such as this one, yield few surprises to me.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:05 PM   #7
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She didn't just get knocked out, she was never in the fight for a second. She was totally dominated.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:25 PM   #8
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I wonder if she was distracted by the rumors of domestic abuse (her against an ex b/f; not the other way around).
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That says much about your knowledge, or lack thereof, on odds and betting.
To say that you would be shocked had a 1-20 favorite won borders on insane.

There was no "begging for money" as if "the fix" was in.
Bookmakers need to try to balance the action on events.
The $20-100 bettor never even contemplates betting 1-20, or -2000.
When they are getting 10, or 12-1, on the underdog, the liability
for the bookie rises pretty fast.
The -2000 probably went a fair bit lower than that.
The reason? Supply and demand - balancing the books. Nothing more.

I know nothing about MMA, and that's by choice.
I have worked with odds on both sides of the counter for many years.
Booking head to head events, such as this one, yield few surprises to me.
I didn't say shocked. I said surprised. Two different words. Holm was the better fighter. Rousey was the better brawler. Once you neutralize the brawler, the rest as they say is history.

Anyway, I wasn't really talking about the odds per se. She was on the receiving end of the hype machine. Those rarely work out well. She sort of reminds me of Mike Tyson. If you can weather the initial storm and have some skill yourself, the Rouseys of the world are eminently beatable.

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But to be "surprised" at the thought of a 1-20 shot winning is pretty laughable.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:29 PM   #11
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But to be "surprised" at the thought of a 1-20 shot winning is pretty laughable.

If true, he should retiring to Aruba any day now.
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But to be "surprised" at the thought of a 1-20 shot winning is pretty laughable.
The only people surprised by my comment are those who were taken in by the hype.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:46 PM   #13
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The only people surprised by my comment are those who were taken in by the hype.
The only thing that would prove your initial statement
would be some wagers on the winning underdog.
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:14 PM   #14
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Deadspin did a piece yesterday about both Rousey and Holm, and while they tried to build Holm up, they pretty much acknowledged that it would be a huge upset if Holm were to win.

http://deadspin.com/ronda-rouseys-la...source=taboola
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we're now quoting deadspin as the authority on mma? Holy mackeral batman.
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