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Old 11-13-2015, 11:48 PM   #46
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To use his own terminology, it has always been Obama's goal to fundamentally change America.

That means degrade it.
He has done more long term harm here than Bin Laden did.
By a country mile.

Today is his fault. No debate on that.
His foreign policy has been a disaster - everything he gets involved in blows up - literally.

France is talking a war without pity.
I would not blame them if they attacked us.
We should get behind them and follow their lead.
We have the best military in history
And by far the worst leadership.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:08 AM   #47
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:19 AM   #48
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Is there a reason why a planned synchronized terrorist attack happened today in Paris? Is there some significance to the date of Friday November 13th?.....Or did they pick just a random day....Thoughts anyone?
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Old 11-14-2015, 01:17 AM   #49
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make no mistake about it, the blame here goes to Bush for starting the job and not finishing it. if he had taken care of business, the guy we have now could not have screwed it up like he has now.
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Old 11-14-2015, 03:41 AM   #50
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make no mistake about it, the blame here goes to Bush for starting the job and not finishing it. if he had taken care of business, the guy we have now could not have screwed it up like he has now.
Bush DID finish it. Didn't you hear him announce: "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"?
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:12 AM   #51
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Shame on our leaders, Shame on Obama, Shame on Congress, for let this happen. It now time for all the opponents of ISIS to unite and rid the world of this scourge. If that mean teaming up with people we like very much, so be it. I have saying for some time now, nobody comes here from the middle east until this mess is settled. Nobody, not Moslem, Not Christian, Not Whatever! But they are not the threat. The real threat is people born here join ISIS in body and spirit. Some of these people we know about. But tracking them gets very expensive fast because there are so many that show a momentary interest ISIS. Some abandon ISIS rather quickly as they find out what ISIS really is and others do not. There is no way the FBI can determine which is which is. I have heard that over 10K have visited an ISIS site that we know of. Trying keep track of them is going take a lot more money. Sending a bunch of American troops to the Middle East is not going stop them either. If we want to end ISIS in the Middle East, we have use other sworn enemies of eliminate them. You know, Iran, Hezbollah, the Shiites, and the Russians. Trying to do it with a few thousand Kurds and a few dozen anti-Assad rebel ain't going to cut it. If wait for places like Saudi Arabia and Turkey to do it, there is going to be a lot of American dead. After watching Israel reaction to ISIS bombing in Beirut, I got the feeling they are pro ISIS. We got to make it clear to them that is unacceptable on any level.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:42 AM   #52
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Is there a reason why a planned synchronized terrorist attack happened today in Paris? Is there some significance to the date of Friday November 13th?.....Or did they pick just a random day....Thoughts anyone?
Maybe, Friday the 13 was the date the church took actions against the Ninth Templar. More logical is when they where able to juice up enough maggots to act on the same date sounds about right. That is what they are, filthy maggots. What is problematic is that there will be another fire to put out someplace else soon, where that is and exactly when is the problem. This might be the new blueprint we are seeing from Paris with several maggots popping on the same day across a location. The death toll less because the target probably was the French president. There is no eradicating maggots or cockroaches, just managing the problem is just too liberal way to go.
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Old 11-14-2015, 07:46 AM   #53
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make no mistake about it, the blame here goes to Bush for starting the job and not finishing it. if he had taken care of business, the guy we have now could not have screwed it up like he has now.
And it's just that simple? Bush left troops in the middle east before he left office for the specific purpose of monitoring and keeping watch over terrorist colonization there. He did all he could. It is this president (jerk) that removed that safeguard and insured the enemy (ISIS) would flourish. To add to his ignorance on the matter, only yesterday a few hours before the Paris attack, he boasted that ISIS had become less of a terror threat worldwide and shrinking in power. He's in such denial it makes one wonder who's side he's really on.
Bush predicted all of this, he warned against it if we reduced our presence there. Amazing there are still those like you, obviously ill-informed, that continue to blame him anyway. It's simply dumb.
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And it's just that simple? Bush left troops in the middle east before he left office for the specific purpose of monitoring and keeping watch over terrorist colonization there. He did all he could. It is this president (jerk) that removed that safeguard and insured the enemy (ISIS) would flourish. To add to his ignorance on the matter, only yesterday a few hours before the Paris attack, he boasted that ISIS had become less of a terror threat worldwide and shrinking in power. He's in such denial it makes one wonder who's side he's really on.
Bush predicted all of this, he warned against it if we reduced our presence there. Amazing there are still those like you, obviously ill-informed, that continue to blame him anyway. It's simply dumb.
here you go
http://www.newsweek.com/iraq-war-bus...blunder-294411

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Old 11-14-2015, 08:45 AM   #55
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And it's just that simple? Bush left troops in the middle east before he left office for the specific purpose of monitoring and keeping watch over terrorist colonization there. He did all he could. It is this president (jerk) that removed that safeguard and insured the enemy (ISIS) would flourish. To add to his ignorance on the matter, only yesterday a few hours before the Paris attack, he boasted that ISIS had become less of a terror threat worldwide and shrinking in power. He's in such denial it makes one wonder who's side he's really on.
Bush predicted all of this, he warned against it if we reduced our presence there. Amazing there are still those like you, obviously ill-informed, that continue to blame him anyway. It's simply dumb.
Bush made the decision to get in to a remove a single tyrant, he believed responsible for dispensing evil. He also believed that a small consortium of Muslim countries was in cahoots to foster and promote terrorism. To whit... the infamous...

"States like [Iraq, Iran, and North Korea] and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil. . . . By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. . . . I will not wait on events while dangers gather.

—President George W. Bush, State of the Union, January 29, 2002"

He was dead wrong on both counts. One doesn't know where this shadowy, alter force of terror gets its financial resources, but nobody woukd be suprised if a hunk of it didn't come from the "Pro West" Saudis, eager to crush one of their enemy regime neighbours.

The problem for them, for the Middle East, for all of us, is that this beast has morphed like the hydra. When that pathetic, whacked out goofball Trump talks about "bombing Isis out if existence", as he did 2 fays ago, few are opposed to that. It's a question of where the F are they! To Donald (and his addled army of supporters)- few are standing around in the desert exposed as an army. Rather, they are singular or uncontrolled small cells of zealot terrorists.

They have given tens of thousands of young Muslim persons a fanatical purpose in life. That is, come and get tye necessary arms and attend our exviting, indoctrination camps (or worse- not), return to your western country and plot to do evil in the most Western/ American linked sites you can think of!

A decade ago, this was unthinkable under Al Queda. Poor suicide bombers had run their course on battlefields. But,going to the centers of the western universe and causing mayhem by an educated and indoctrinated cadre? Yes sir- that's the ticket.

Worse, there has been fiddling, while democracy and freedom are burning, among all Western democracies. Even the well trained French police and investigative apparatuses, have merely been 'monitoring' the goings and comings if wannabe terrorists and most importantly- CITIZENS! Did you hear the reporter who was in that theatre?

"The shooter looked and sounded like moi"!

Decisions in the western democracies shoukd have been made a looooong time ago. That is, if you leave us to find these ISIS training camps, you are no longer a citizen. Rather, you are considered an enemy terrorist and traitor. Those laws should have been changed long ago, with the appropriate penalties written in.

And to Americans especially I am saying, thst in order to beat this shadowy evil, highly intrusive forms of surveillance need to ensue. These will likely by nature, be contrary to anyone's Constitution or Charter of Rights, but THAT is what is coming post Paris!

France, Germany & England- the 3 central figures of Euro, will have all the more problems, since the Muslim percentage of their pops has slowly risen to almost double figures! Crushing ones neighbours beckons totalitarian responses. Unfortunately, we are very close to there, now.
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Interesting.

Today, the flash ad above me states: "

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make no mistake about it, the blame here goes to Bush for starting the job and not finishing it. if he had taken care of business, the guy we have now could not have screwed it up like he has now.

It Obama who didn't finish the job.
Lambo, are you aware that presidents have terms and must leave office?
Batty and Kerry have done nothing right in the ME since day one.

To blame this on Bush is ridiculous..
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:57 AM   #58
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Is there a reason why a planned synchronized terrorist attack happened today in Paris? Is there some significance to the date of Friday November 13th?.....Or did they pick just a random day....Thoughts anyone?
Their check bounced?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/24...iel-greenfield

Pretty ironic, I think.
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He's in such denial it makes one wonder who's side he's really on.
No, it isn't.
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:00 AM   #60
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but nobody woukd be suprised if a hunk of it didn't come from the "Pro West" Saudis, eager to crush one of their enemy regime neighbours.
Of course it is a big part from Sorry Arabia.
They are no friends of the US.
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