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Old 03-07-2018, 11:01 AM   #46
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Some of the donors and power brokers in the democratic party outside of Hollywood that I strongly suspect to be pedophiles or sympathetic enough to that behavior that they are willing to look the other way as long as the check clears. And I may be understating the reality when I say "look the other way" because circumstantial evidence is not proof.
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Meryl Streep appeared to be a main attraction at the awards show Sunday night.. They all love her. Isn't she the immoral beanbag that watched Harvey do what he did for years without saying anything to anyone?
The majority of the Hollywood elite are good for one thing...acting. They look nice in expensive clothing. Underneath however they're the lowest of bottom-feeders. I rarely even glance at newer movies anymore because they truly make me sick.
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Comet Ping Pong ad infinitum!
I did not know what Comet Ping Pong referred to so I looked it up. In doing my research I found this.
read:https://www.salon.com/2016/12/10/piz...for-on-reddit/

The article explains why such a preposterous story has taken such a hold on certain people. It says that the whole thing was started by people trolling on sites such a 4chan and reddit.

Looking at the emails leaked by WikiLeaks, they decided to make ridiculous unsubstantiated claims such as that pizza orders were code for child molestation. Any sensible person would see this for what it is. But when you combine the paranoia of the Trumpists with the sexual repression of some religious conservatives you have a perfect breeding ground for this insanity.

You are familiar I am sure with the psychological phenomenon known as projection, in which a person takes the failing that he most despises about himself and projects that onto another person so that he can attack that
failing without admitting to himself that it is his failing.

Thus it is that we have so many examples of politicians who preach morality and cheat on their spouses; of priests who rail against promiscuity and abuse children; of TV evangelists who extol the family and consort with prostitutes.

I am not saying that anyone on this forum has ever any sexual activity with any children. (Although, considering that there are thousands of members that is a possibility. I do say that some of those, having fleeting, unbidden thoughts of that nature, are attacking others as a way of proving to themselves that they are pure.

One of the more interesting portions of the article told of how some posters, in an effort to bring attention to this fake scandal, found and posted pictures depicting child pornography. They have been arrested and charged, Whether they will convince the courts that there motives were honorable is questionable. On the other hand, shouldn't terminal stupidity be a punishable offense?
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I did not know what Comet Ping Pong referred to so I looked it up. In doing my research I found this.
read:https://www.salon.com/2016/12/10/piz...for-on-reddit/

The article explains why such a preposterous story has taken such a hold on certain people. It says that the whole thing was started by people trolling on sites such a 4chan and reddit.

Looking at the emails leaked by WikiLeaks, they decided to make ridiculous unsubstantiated claims such as that pizza orders were code for child molestation. Any sensible person would see this for what it is. But when you combine the paranoia of the Trumpists with the sexual repression of some religious conservatives you have a perfect breeding ground for this insanity.

You are familiar I am sure with the psychological phenomenon known as projection, in which a person takes the failing that he most despises about himself and projects that onto another person so that he can attack that
failing without admitting to himself that it is his failing.

Thus it is that we have so many examples of politicians who preach morality and cheat on their spouses; of priests who rail against promiscuity and abuse children; of TV evangelists who extol the family and consort with prostitutes.

I am not saying that anyone on this forum has ever any sexual activity with any children. (Although, considering that there are thousands of members that is a possibility. I do say that some of those, having fleeting, unbidden thoughts of that nature, are attacking others as a way of proving to themselves that they are pure.

One of the more interesting portions of the article told of how some posters, in an effort to bring attention to this fake scandal, found and posted pictures depicting child pornography. They have been arrested and charged, Whether they will convince the courts that there motives were honorable is questionable. On the other hand, shouldn't terminal stupidity be a punishable offense?
Have you ever went a day without talking down to someone who has a different point of view than you do?
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I did not know what Comet Ping Pong referred to so I looked it up. In doing my research I found this.
read:https://www.salon.com/2016/12/10/piz...for-on-reddit/

The article explains why such a preposterous story has taken such a hold on certain people. It says that the whole thing was started by people trolling on sites such a 4chan and reddit.

Looking at the emails leaked by WikiLeaks, they decided to make ridiculous unsubstantiated claims such as that pizza orders were code for child molestation. Any sensible person would see this for what it is. But when you combine the paranoia of the Trumpists with the sexual repression of some religious conservatives you have a perfect breeding ground for this insanity.

You are familiar I am sure with the psychological phenomenon known as projection, in which a person takes the failing that he most despises about himself and projects that onto another person so that he can attack that
failing without admitting to himself that it is his failing.

Thus it is that we have so many examples of politicians who preach morality and cheat on their spouses; of priests who rail against promiscuity and abuse children; of TV evangelists who extol the family and consort with prostitutes.

I am not saying that anyone on this forum has ever any sexual activity with any children. (Although, considering that there are thousands of members that is a possibility. I do say that some of those, having fleeting, unbidden thoughts of that nature, are attacking others as a way of proving to themselves that they are pure.

One of the more interesting portions of the article told of how some posters, in an effort to bring attention to this fake scandal, found and posted pictures depicting child pornography. They have been arrested and charged, Whether they will convince the courts that there motives were honorable is questionable. On the other hand, shouldn't terminal stupidity be a punishable offense?
The responses to the above should be good.

Unless those whom I am expecting to respond have just gotten tired of the whole thing already. But you sure have left the door wide open...and I'm expecting some good action.
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Meryl Streep appeared to be a main attraction at the awards show Sunday night.. They all love her. Isn't she the immoral beanbag that watched Harvey do what he did for years without saying anything to anyone?
The majority of the Hollywood elite are good for one thing...acting. They look nice in expensive clothing. Underneath however they're the lowest of bottom-feeders. I rarely even glance at newer movies anymore because they truly make me sick.
The only way that pig got away with as much as he did is because the spineless scumbags that are Hollywood refused to stop him. The ONLY reason they are supporting Me Too is because they have been outed. most, just like Hillary do not care at all about the victims, only their own images.
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Someday I'll relate the story of meeting Harvey Weinstein and doing some work (sort of work) for him and his partner, Corky Berger.
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I did not know what Comet Ping Pong referred to so I looked it up. In doing my research I found this.
read:https://www.salon.com/2016/12/10/piz...for-on-reddit/

The article explains why such a preposterous story has taken such a hold on certain people. It says that the whole thing was started by people trolling on sites such a 4chan and reddit.

Looking at the emails leaked by WikiLeaks, they decided to make ridiculous unsubstantiated claims such as that pizza orders were code for child molestation. Any sensible person would see this for what it is. But when you combine the paranoia of the Trumpists with the sexual repression of some religious conservatives you have a perfect breeding ground for this insanity.

You are familiar I am sure with the psychological phenomenon known as projection, in which a person takes the failing that he most despises about himself and projects that onto another person so that he can attack that
failing without admitting to himself that it is his failing.

Thus it is that we have so many examples of politicians who preach morality and cheat on their spouses; of priests who rail against promiscuity and abuse children; of TV evangelists who extol the family and consort with prostitutes.

I am not saying that anyone on this forum has ever any sexual activity with any children. (Although, considering that there are thousands of members that is a possibility. I do say that some of those, having fleeting, unbidden thoughts of that nature, are attacking others as a way of proving to themselves that they are pure.

One of the more interesting portions of the article told of how some posters, in an effort to bring attention to this fake scandal, found and posted pictures depicting child pornography. They have been arrested and charged, Whether they will convince the courts that there motives were honorable is questionable. On the other hand, shouldn't terminal stupidity be a punishable offense?
I mean sure...I'm sure it is totally related to nothing except innocent pizza and hotdogs...

For example, how could anyone NOT read anything else into something like the below:

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The realtor found a handkerchief (I think it has a map that seems pizza-related. Is it yorus? They can send it if you want. I know you're busy, so feel free not to respond if it's not yours or you don't want it.

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You'd be NUTS to think it has something to do with anything but actual pizza!!
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Have you ever went a day without talking down to someone who has a different point of view than you do?
I'm sorry if you feel I was talking down to you. I was merely pointing out that there has never been the slightest evidence that the Podestas were running a child pornography ring out of a Washington DC pizzeria, and that it takes a certain type to believe that they were, Not my fault if you are one of those.
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NONE of you has done the amount of independent research I have done into possible connections between significant people in the democrat party and pedophiles.

The mainstream media has not reported on the issue in an unbiased or comprehensive way. The media found aspects of the pizzagate story that were clearly false or extremely unlikely and shot those down. It then used the false parts to shoot down the entire story even though there is some legitimate evidence and some that remains unexplained or ignored. I did enough independent research to be able to shoot down one piece of wikileaks evidence that no one else explained by finding a reference to it in the Washington Post from many years ago that explained what it meant.

Just for starters, Jeffry Epstein is a convicted pedophile and had a close relationship with the Clintons and others in Hollywood.

Laura Silsby was trafficking kids out of Haiti and Bill and Hillary Clinton intervened to help her.

There is Anthony Weiner and Bob Menendez.

There's a wikileaks email that suggests under-aged children were brought to a party for "entertainment" and evidence the supplier was a whack job woman with a suspicious web site that has since gone private.

There's a verified statement by law enforcement that "cheese pizza" is in fact used by pedophiles as code for child porn.

That's not even getting into some of the more speculative stuff related to comments by Andrew Breitbart and his Acorn work, that there were legitimate instagram photos that suggest "unhealthy" sexual interests, a video that suggested tolerance of such behavior, or other unexplained wikileaks emails that suggest a non literal interpretation.

If you want to know the truth, just ignore the media and go to primary sources. Some of the overall story is false. Some is speculation and likely to be wrong or a misunderstanding. But some of it is 100% accurate and verifiable.

In my opinion, it is extremely likely that members of the democrat party knowingly have political and/or personal relationships with people that are pedophiles. They must simply look the other way - most likely because these people contribute a lot of money to the party or because some of them consider it just another lifestyle choice that should be normalized and with nothing immoral about it.
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Mosty, you are way out of line for even suggesting that anyone on this forum is projecting something because they are discussing possible reprehensible behavior by some people in politics. The only reason I'm not totally going off on you is respect for our host and because I'm above it.

Our politicians are corrupt and incompetent. That much is obvious. But some are horrible human beings also. It's a simple fact. You know less about this issue than usual. At most, you read a few mainstream articles by people that don't know what they are talking about either or that have an agenda to protect political friends. I have done independent research because I wanted to know just how disgusting these people are and what was true and what was false. I'm smart enough to know I can't trust anyone in the media on either side.
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Everyone knows Chicago has the best hot dogs, but how many would it be to buy $65K worth for a party?

Why would one of Hillary's friends be stopped trying to leave Haiti with 23 small children for 'adoption'?

If a rich guy in China wanted to have 10 kids a year for whatever reason, what would keep him from paying a lady $10K to get inseminated to carry his kid? (and also hospital and legal) to do whatever he wanted with his stable of kids? He could raise them like a herd of cattle, and then sell organs or 'whatever'...
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NONE of you has done the amount of independent research I have done into possible connections between significant people in the democrat party and pedophiles.
In other words you are obsessed with this subject. Reading lunatic websites is not research.

The mainstream media has not reported on the issue in an unbiased or comprehensive way. The media found aspects of the pizzagate story that were clearly false or extremely unlikely and shot those down. It then used the false parts to shoot down the entire story even though there is some legitimate evidence and some that remains unexplained or ignored.
Isn't there a principle in the law about a preponderance of evidence? If most of the evidence is clearly false or extremely unlikely, the chances are the story is false.

I did enough independent research to be able to shoot down one piece of wikileaks evidence that no one else explained by finding a reference to it in the Washington Post from many years ago that explained what it meant.
Why don't you share that with us?

Just for starters, Jeffry Epstein is a convicted pedophile and had a close relationship with the Clintons and others in Hollywood.
Epstein pled guilty and was sentenced in 2008. At which point the Clintons had already ended their relationship with him. Clinton's trips on Epstein's plane took place in the early 2000's.

Laura Silsby was trafficking kids out of Haiti and Bill and Hillary Clinton intervened to help her.
Laura Silsby, and nine other whack jobs from two Baptist churches in Idaho went to Haiti to "rescue" child victims of the earthquake. Unbelievably, the thought it would be OK to take any random children regardless of whether they had living parents or not.

Their purpose in doing so was to take them back to an orphanage which Silsby was starting and eventually to have them adopted. These people were really stupid, but there is no evidence that they were engaged in child sex trafficking.

Why did Bill and Hillary Clinton get involved? Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State at the time and Bill Clinton was influential in Haiti because of the humanitarian work he had done in previous disasters. There was no other connection between the Clinton's and Laura Silsby beyond some email she had sent them soliciting donations.


There is Anthony Weiner and Bob Menendez.


There's a wikileaks email that suggests under-aged children were brought to a party for "entertainment" and evidence the supplier was a whack job woman with a suspicious web site that has since gone private.
Then show us this email and just how it suggests all of this.

There's a verified statement by law enforcement that "cheese pizza" is in fact used by pedophiles as code for child porn.
And Cheese Pizza is also used by people as code for ordering cheese pizza.

That's not even getting into some of the more speculative stuff related to comments by Andrew Breitbart and his Acorn work, that there were legitimate instagram photos that suggest "unhealthy" sexual interests, a video that suggested tolerance of such behavior, or other unexplained wikileaks emails that suggest a non literal interpretation.

In that one paragraph you use the word speculative once and the word suggest three times. Allow me to speculate that you are way to susceptible to suggestion,

If you want to know the truth, just ignore the media and go to primary sources. Some of the overall story is false. Some is speculation and likely to be wrong or a misunderstanding. But some of it is 100% accurate and verifiable.
I also am a great believer in primary sources. But when the primary sources are interpreted in such a bizarre way, not so much.

In my opinion, it is extremely likely that members of the democrat party knowingly have political and/or personal relationships with people that are pedophiles. They must simply look the other way - most likely because these people contribute a lot of money to the party or because some of them consider it just another lifestyle choice that should be normalized and with nothing immoral about it.
Democrats are no more or no less likely to be pedophiles than are Republicans, but Democrats are much less likely to make unfounded accusations for political gain.
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