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11-06-2018, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OntheRail
Well of course they are... we went from Free Phones to Promises of forgiving College Loans.... Free Healthcare for all... And these so called higher educated urban voters eat it up... makes one wonder about the quality of today's higher learning.
AS NOTHING IS FREE... the working middle class knows this.
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Not urban...suburban....look it up on the map...bedminster......far hill......bridge water....basking ridge...Westfield. Trumps summer White House is in the district.
These people commute to the city. And wait for it...are rich
They don’t want free anything...they work for it.
Nj-07, just 4 short years ago Lance the incumbent won with 60% of the vote.
Yet now the Democratic Party is favored to win.
Very few working class cities in Nj-07
Just rich white people voting democratic.
Allan
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11-06-2018, 03:10 PM
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#77
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Maybe politifact should check Beta's voting record on ICE,. He was one of a short number of house democrats that didn't vote for Rep Higgins (LA) resolution in support of ICE. One key point was 'to not abolish' ICE.
Now before you make an uneducated reply or retweet someone with limited knowledge about the subject go look it up. Read it. Understand what he was voting down.
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This is what he was voting down.. a partisan resolution with no other purpose but to call out dems..
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...upport-for-ice
Meanwhile, a year earlier, Beto voted yes to reauthorize ICE and other DHS agencies:
https://thehill.com/policy/transport...eland-security
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll403.xml
Do I understand what he was voting down? Do I understand what he was voting for? Please edumacate me Mr Elky Dong
Last edited by FantasticDan; 11-06-2018 at 03:11 PM.
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11-06-2018, 03:28 PM
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#78
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Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
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Partisan resolution? Look , it said what it said. Nothing more or less.
You *Need* education on the subject Dan, so here's your homework.
- Go to votesmart.org
-look up O'Rourke
- Filter voting record to "immigration"
- look at his record. See all the Nay's? Even on bills that passed. That's what his record IS.
He's toast.
Now that you have your homework, good luck !
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Last edited by ElKabong; 11-06-2018 at 03:30 PM.
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11-06-2018, 03:31 PM
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#79
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Mr Elky Dong
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Nice touch. Ya'll have learned zilch.
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11-06-2018, 03:40 PM
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gelding
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,883
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElKabong
- Go to votesmart.org
-look up O'Rourke
- Filter voting record to "immigration"
- look at his record. See all the Nay's? Even on bills that passed. That's what his record IS.
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Oh, so now we've moved the goalposts to "immigration"
His record is voting yes to reauthorize ICE. Your post said he didn't support ICE.
'Nuff said.
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11-06-2018, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Oh, so now we've moved the goalposts to "immigration"
His record is voting yes to reauthorize ICE. Your post said he didn't support ICE.
'Nuff said.
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And voted nay on a resolution stating 'to not abolish ICE'
You're back to square one. Facts are facts, his votes are on record.
Elky Dong.... seriously?
Last edited by ElKabong; 11-06-2018 at 03:47 PM.
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11-06-2018, 03:49 PM
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#82
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Who does the Racing Form Detective like in this one?
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11-06-2018, 03:50 PM
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#83
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The Voice of Reason!
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Location: Canandaigua, New york
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Elky Dong.... seriously?
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He is being all that he can be!
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11-06-2018, 03:59 PM
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Someone cares
My sleepy little precinct was lines out the door busy. Certainly not normal for an off-year election.
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All I needed in life I learned from Gary Larson.
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11-06-2018, 05:15 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Houston, Tx
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Reps just got to keep the Senate. Continue those lifetime appointments for Federal Judges. Those cover generations....
Got Gorsuch...got Kavanaugh.
I'm good with that.
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11-06-2018, 06:03 PM
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Posts: 30,398
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Originally Posted by reckless
Bill Clinton sold military and defense technology to hated enemy Communist China for campaign contributions in the 1990s.
Barry Obama gave billions of hard currency to hated enemy Iran in a deal that threatened the very existence of both the USA and Israel.
And you claim Trump is an EXISTENTIAL THREAT to western civilization??
I guess PA Mike's brief shutdown of OT General could not stanch the regular idiocy by the lunatic fringe.
I've never been more confident of being right of my calling for a Crimson Mask of GOP victories today. And don't forget, I said this so many, many weeks ago. Unlike most of the posters here who hide in the shadows checking where the wind blew, then slap themselves on the back, saying 'I knew it all along'.
You all got my call early and often.
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You are arguing history, and we obviously don't agree. Bill Clinton or Hillary or Obama were or are not now "EXISTENTIAL THREAT[/B] to western civilization.
We can argue that at another time.
I asked you if you would like to amend your notion of the non existence of a blue wave.
What about the Dems retaking the House?.
Last edited by hcap; 11-06-2018 at 06:06 PM.
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11-06-2018, 06:06 PM
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#87
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Location: Denver
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
Your post is a hard sell, given that Beto is in favor of an open border.
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"You know, perhaps no one cares more about a secure border than those of us who live on the border," he said. "Amy and I are raising our three kids" there, he said. "That's why I've made border security a priority [and] been able to work with John Cornyn, a Republican senior senator from the state ..., on common-sense, border solutions."
Beto O'Rourke
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11-06-2018, 06:23 PM
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Location: Behind the Pine Curtain
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Originally Posted by HalvOnHorseracing
"You know, perhaps no one cares more about a secure border than those of us who live on the border," he said. "Amy and I are raising our three kids" there, he said. "That's why I've made border security a priority [and] been able to work with John Cornyn, a Republican senior senator from the state ..., on common-sense, border solutions."
Beto O'Rourke
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It's talk, nothing more.
Google Cornyn, all the money in the world won't help ORourke win
You can keep your doctor....
Last edited by ElKabong; 11-06-2018 at 06:25 PM.
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11-06-2018, 06:35 PM
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#89
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Location: Diez meses en Port St. Lucie, FL; two months in the Dominican Republic
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Originally Posted by ElKabong
You can keep your doctor....
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"We're going to get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something terrific"
"We're building a wall and Mexico's going to pay for it"
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11-06-2018, 06:44 PM
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#90
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Originally Posted by barahona44
"We're going to get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something terrific"
"We're building a wall and Mexico's going to pay for it"
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Well put, and the repubs pay the price tonight for not producing a replacement for nOCARE
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