Mahoning Valley bad beat yesterday

[bello]

Do they fine trainers for frivolous claims of foul?

[castaway01]

Originally Posted by bello

Was shocked but pleasantly surprised to see him on the front end so easily. Class prevailed, as it usually does. Horses know when they are surrounded by lesser talented talented animals and vice versa.

Isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy though, since any time a horse with back class wins you can say the horse won on class, and when they don't win you can say their form changed?


My thoughts right now are with the horse though. Terrible ending to the day, and the worst part of this game.

[bello]

Originally Posted by castaway01

Isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy though, since any time a horse with back class wins you can say the horse won on class, and when they don't win you can say their form changed?


My thoughts right now are with the horse though. Terrible ending to the day, and the worst part of this game.

That is correct. The way he went to the lead and outran the speed horses that were quicker on paper was where his class shined and theirs did not. Of course there are other variables like the jock strategy. Agree, hope he is ok.

[bello]

Originally Posted by lamboguy

i am going with #14 NAVY COMMANDER


he is training great and aways runs good.

the horse i don't like is #7 BOBBY'S WICKED ONE. the other horses coming out of the race he just ran have done little.










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Stick to your favorite harness track

Aaron race 5
Box 16 race 4

[AstrosFan]

Originally Posted by rrpic6

14 3 Year Old's are entered today for Mahoning Valley's richest race.

With a $250,000 purse that could only get $216,044 of handle on the big race and zero mention of it on Paulick Report.

Sorry Penn Gaming but you failed again when it comes to racing

[mountainman]

Originally Posted by castaway01

Isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy though, since any time a horse with back class wins you can say the horse won on class, and when they don't win you can say their form changed?


My thoughts right now are with the horse though. Terrible ending to the day, and the worst part of this game.

Condylar fracture. Headed for surgery. Not life threatening. Could even return to action at some point, sir.

[rrpic6]

Originally Posted by AstrosFan

With a $250,000 purse that could only get $216,044 of handle on the big race and zero mention of it on Paulick Report.

Sorry Penn Gaming but you failed again when it comes to racing

Happy reading AstFan:


https://www.paulickreport.com/news/t...valley-sprint/


Note mention of handle for the card at the end of article.


RR

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by mountainman

.the 6 horse, a pace-oriented router, tries a different game and will have to close..i do suspect the ohio derby was his best effort, which could be relevant, since the horse lives and trains in ohio, a state still somewhat notorious for permissive med policies................

Trigger Warning was very brave.

I had the winning in my handicapping. You know the circuit very well. I think some of your thoughts on this race were the difference. Trigger Warning ran well on basically his home court, and the pace scenario was less contested than I expected (either he outran the pace or the 2,5,etc.. didn't break well, I haven't reviewed the race). The payouts were actually very generous, because it was a big field, and if Trigger Warning actually went off post-time favorite(haven't checked), he was a luke-warm favorite.

Hopefully the surgery went well and he'll be in good hands, whether he races again or enjoys his retirement.

[mountainman]

Race seriously marred now by belated revelation that 2 horse's gate failed to fully open. Almost certainly altered the pace, and may well have altered the outcome. The Ness is a real blazer and was notable in his odd absence from the first flight.

Very, very unfortunate. I have never seen or heard of anything like this in such a lucrative race. When Mvr screws up, they don't go small. That's for sure.

Story has probably broken. DRF all over it.

Suddenly, btw, I don't feel like QUITE such a genius for cashing big on Trigger Warning's narrow gate-to-wire win. If the 2 breaks, maybe Trigger rates just behind or survives the extra heat....or maybe not so much. Tricky question with the place horse also involved early and the third finisher so well-beaten as no real factor.

[cj]

Originally Posted by mountainman

Race seriously marred now by belated revelation that 2 horse's gate failed to fully open. Almost certainly altered the pace, and may well have altered the outcome. The Ness is a real blazer and was notable in his odd absence from the first flight.

Very, very unfortunate. I have never seen or heard of anything like this in such a lucrative race. When Mvr screws up, they don't go small. That's for sure.

Story has probably broken. DRF all over it.

Suddenly, btw, I don't feel like QUITE such a genius for cashing big on Trigger Warning's narrow gate-to-wire win. If the 2 breaks, maybe Trigger rates just behind or survives the extra heat....or maybe not so much. Tricky question with the place horse also involved early and the third finisher so well-beaten as no real factor.

I haven't seen a peep about this until now. Watched the head on, very hard to see due to the wonderful replay quality from MVR. Sure looks fishy.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by mountainman

Race seriously marred now by belated revelation that 2 horse's gate failed to fully open. Almost certainly altered the pace, and may well have altered the outcome. The Ness is a real blazer and was notable in his odd absence from the first flight.

Very, very unfortunate. I have never seen or heard of anything like this in such a lucrative race. When Mvr screws up, they don't go small. That's for sure.

Story has probably broken. DRF all over it.

Suddenly, btw, I don't feel like QUITE such a genius for cashing big on Trigger Warning's narrow gate-to-wire win. If the 2 breaks, maybe Trigger rates just behind or survives the extra heat....or maybe not so much. Tricky question with the place horse also involved early and the third finisher so well-beaten as no real factor.

Wow. First I heard of this. Going to watch the head-on (assuming it's available).

Was surprised by the pace.

Either way, Trigger Warning and jock made the most of that opportunity. He did out-game the 7, in a fair-enough race and stretch run between the two of them.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by cj

I haven't seen a peep about this until now. Watched the head on, very hard to see due to the wonderful replay quality from MVR. Sure looks fishy.

I can't see it well enough.

[the little guy]

Originally Posted by cj

I haven't seen a peep about this until now. Watched the head on, very hard to see due to the wonderful replay quality from MVR. Sure looks fishy.

You can't see much on the head-on except him getting slammed right after the break, but watching the pan, he doesn't break any more than a fraction of a step slowly. The slam likely contributed to his lack of speed. Anything else seems like mere conjecture.

There is nothing on DRF about it.

[mountainman]

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Originally Posted by the little guy

You can't see much on the head-on except him getting slammed right after the break, but watching the pan, he doesn't break any more than a fraction of a step slowly. The slam likely contributed to his lack of speed. Anything else seems like mere conjecture.

There is nothing on DRF about it.

The gate failing to fully open isn't conjecture. And had to factor into the horse's lack of speed. Also, the angle of pan shots renders them deceptive concerning the break. Especially with a horse down close to the rail.

[cj]

Originally Posted by mountainman

The gate failing to fully open isn't conjecture. And certainly factored into the horse's lack of speed. Also, the angle of pan shots renders them deceptive concerning the break.

Have a screen shot? I personally can't see it well enough to know what is happening. I had better luck watching scrambled porn in the 80s. Pretty sure I saw a nipple once.