Dick Mitchells Material

[ronestes]

What is anyones opinion on Dick Mitchells material, same as everyone elses, better Thanks, Ron

[Dave Schwartz]

As a general rule, Dick's stuff was excellent; based on sound mathematics.

[ldiatone]

most of the material holds up after 15 years or so. cynthia publishing has a fellow(steve) who did updates on all the mitchell "tapes" and put them on DVD. i bought them. also read his books, commonsense handicapping, winning throroughbred strategies. and the other(can't think of the title) bought "how to play the pick 3". a lot of math. mitchell seemed to use all the "players" creamer, meadows, tom b and even sartin in his works but gave them credit.
doc sartin told me that All-in-one V3-4 was his old phase 3. but since then its been upgraded. v7. i'm a fan of mitchell so i'll be a little bias.
steve also updated the message board at CYB.

[Overlay]

Originally Posted by ldiatone

also read his books, commonsense handicapping, winning throroughbred strategies. and the other(can't think of the title)

Would the other title you're trying to recall be Commonsense Betting? (It's on my short list as far as best books on handicapping / money management.)

[broadreach]

I bought his Commonsense Handicapping(hardcover) and 21st Century Handicapping(paperback). The former is a great read, he also touches on non-racing themes at the end of the book e.g investing, life. The latter is also good, probably written quickly, still had some neat little system plays and good thought provoking advice.

[46zilzal]

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz

As a general rule, Dick's stuff was excellent; based on sound mathematics.

2nd that ..he was the very first to write about what to do AFTER you have handicapped the race.........works well.

[ldiatone]

Originally Posted by Overlay

Would the other title you're trying to recall be Commonsense Betting? (It's on my short list as far as best books on handicapping / money management.)

yes thats the title

[kingfin66]

I really enjoyed his stuff, plus he had some great lines in his books. For example, in one book he wrote, "anyone who bets long shots to show is a walking brain donor." His mathematics are spot on, but he makes it easy for regular folks to understand.

[timtam]

I know I purchased Playing the Pick 3 years ago and he had a model where

you could wager $200 playing different combinations. Probably mathematically

sound but way over the beer and shirt sleeve crowd when it comes to amount

wagered per race. At the time the wager was $3 so with todays $1 pick

3's it might not be so cumbersome but just too rich for my blood on a wager

that could pay anything from $6-hundreds.

[fmolf]

the other book of his i want to read is "myths that destroy a players bankroll".......common sense handicapping and common sense betting were both excellent and easy to follow for the recreational handicapper

[AAcoolguy]

Originally Posted by kingfin66

I really enjoyed his stuff, plus he had some great lines in his books. For example, in one book he wrote, "anyone who bets long shots to show is a walking brain donor." His mathematics are spot on, but he makes it easy for regular folks to understand.

In another of his books, can't recall which, he's talking about taking the plunge into being a full time horse bettor. He says, "There are no skeletons laying in the street", basically he's saying that even if things get too tough you'll still make it through.
One of my favorite quotes of all time. I love his books.

[CincyHorseplayer]

I have only read one book by Mitchell.

But what I gather from that,more than handicapping information is attitude.People fuss and fight about horses and handicapping and lose sight of the goal=win!!!!!!!!!!!

Dick Mitchell talks about winning.Not as a daydream or as an elusive goal.But as matter of fact,ie let's get down to business,see whats winning,and bet accordingly and smile while that uncomfortable lump of cash is in the pocket.

His approach is irrefutable=win at all costs.

Sounds good to me!!!

[Fingal]

Every so often I pull out my old Dick Mitchell VHS tapes, very easy to listen to, very insightful.

I forget which one it's in, but it's a great line-

" You don't want to play fair games, you always want to play in unfair games & you always want the advantage in an unfair game- No advantage, no bet "

Horseracing is the greatest gamble around. It's all about opportunities.

I love this game.

[Overlay]

Originally Posted by Fingal

I forget which one it's in, but it's a great line-

" You don't want to play fair games, you always want to play in unfair games & you always want the advantage in an unfair game- No advantage, no bet ".

And the reason he needed to say that is because players -- and the selection methods they use -- too often throw away the advantages that pari-mutuel betting offers over other forms of wagering. They view the "object of the game" as finding and betting the horse most likely to win (regardless of its odds), rather than the horse with odds that represent the best wagering value in comparison to its actual chance of winning.

[Turfway Ed]

I believe that Steve's full name is Steve Unite. He was helpful to me. Mitchell's work was/ is great.

Originally Posted by ldiatone

most of the material holds up after 15 years or so. cynthia publishing has a fellow(steve) who did updates on all the mitchell "tapes" and put them on DVD. i bought them. also read his books, commonsense handicapping, winning throroughbred strategies. and the other(can't think of the title) bought "how to play the pick 3". a lot of math. mitchell seemed to use all the "players" creamer, meadows, tom b and even sartin in his works but gave them credit.
doc sartin told me that All-in-one V3-4 was his old phase 3. but since then its been upgraded. v7. i'm a fan of mitchell so i'll be a little bias.
steve also updated the message board at CYB.