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12-30-2009, 08:18 AM
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Hello redeye007:
I hope that you are doing well? Thanks for sharing your results and settings. I must strongly agree with what you stated in an earlier post. I truly believe that Handifast when it is clicking right along is capable of some incredible results. When you have locked on to the most suitable settings, I have seen the results at Hollywood and Santa Anita to be nothing short of stunning.
Keep up the good work.
All the BEST!
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Warm Regards,
Vinnie
"All Human error is impatience; a premature renunciation of method"- F. Kafka
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12-30-2009, 09:48 AM
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6out of 10 top?
redeye i see only 6 top wins with your weights the 1st 2nd 6th 7th 8th 9th.whats the 7th winner? whatever a nice job.
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12-30-2009, 04:57 PM
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#198
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Bet small...win BIG!
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Location: Nevada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fight
redeye i see only 6 top wins with your weights the 1st 2nd 6th 7th 8th 9th.whats the 7th winner? whatever a nice job.
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I stand corrected. you're right. I need to check my math better next time.
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12-31-2009, 12:17 PM
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question redeye
i notice you weight all surfaces 20 . now my question is do you for example if mud surface leave all 4 surfaces in at20 or just mud only 20 ? ty
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12-31-2009, 06:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Hammond, IN
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Handifast Posts
Attached is a word document of the more informative posts on this board which I have found gave me a better understanding on how to effectively use this program.
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01-01-2010, 04:00 AM
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Registered User
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Cool
Good job Hounddog.
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01-01-2010, 08:38 AM
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Registered User
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Houndog:
Greetings:
Happy New Year to you and your family.
Thank you very much for taking the time to post such an excellent and informative document on Handifast. I have printed and saved it for future use and I am sure that I will read it over and over many times going forward in using Handifast.
All the BEST to you and your family. I hope that you have a wonderful 2010 and beyond.
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Warm Regards,
Vinnie
"All Human error is impatience; a premature renunciation of method"- F. Kafka
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01-01-2010, 12:41 PM
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douglasw32
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Horseheads, NY
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THANKS HOUNDOG, I will include this with the newest release...
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01-02-2010, 02:37 PM
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Location: Tennessee
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For anyone interested. Yesterday @ SA, Handifast Top Fair Odds Pick, won the 2nd,3rd, 5th and 10th races. Paid, $9.40, $2.80, $29.40 and $5.20. Not bad, $46.80 return on $20 bet. This is using lsosa54's settings for Cal AW tracks.
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01-02-2010, 02:47 PM
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Location: Tennessee
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I'll put these up in advance. SA 1/2/10
1> #5
2> #1
3> #4
4> #5
5> #3
6> #1
7> #8
8> #2
9> #7
Same settings as yesterday.
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01-02-2010, 02:55 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Tennessee
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dartman51
For anyone interested. Yesterday @ SA, Handifast Top Fair Odds Pick, won the 2nd,3rd, 5th and 10th races. Paid, $9.40, $2.80, $29.40 and $5.20. Not bad, $46.80 return on $20 bet. This is using lsosa54's settings for Cal AW tracks.
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CORRECTION!! This was not done totally with lsosa54's settings. A missunderstanding on my part. I went back and looked at the text file he posted. Actually, the settings I used was, 100 pts for DS, FM, PCR,TF, AND 0'S for the rest.
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01-02-2010, 05:05 PM
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Houndog is one the nicest guys you would ever hope to meet
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01-03-2010, 05:57 AM
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Bet small...win BIG!
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Location: Nevada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fight
i notice you weight all surfaces 20 . now my question is do you for example if mud surface leave all 4 surfaces in at20 or just mud only 20 ? ty
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here is my method using the software: in my experience with handicapping software, any software seems to yield the best results at the height of the meet and winding down to closing day. the fact that many entrants have already raced at the target track may contribute to the better results but I'm not sure. I attempt to analyze the races after the results are in and then try to improve the predicted picks by tweaking the factors that support the winners. some of the factors have no impact on the outcome while other significantly change things. once I achieve 60 percent plus winners on a given day I'll stick with those factors hoping for a repeat. If leaving all 4 surfaces at 20 is producing the best results I'll leave it there but I experiment with certain settings and keep trying to improve things. right now my settings for sax are at cl 58, ds 10, ep 30, lp 55, fm 20, pcr 40, aw 60, tf 20, my 20, dt 20, tr 10, jk 10, ml 10. as the meet progesses I'll keep tweaking. I only use top power and top overall picks. a good example of the settings I use was yesterday in the 9th top power and top overall was the 4 which won and paid $20.20. it also hit the double cold in races 8 and 9 for $87.20.when I get a match on the top pick for overall and power that's a single in the exotics.
Last edited by redeye007; 01-03-2010 at 06:06 AM.
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01-03-2010, 09:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redeye007
I only use top power and top overall picks. a good example of the settings I use was yesterday in the 9th top power and top overall was the 4 which won and paid $20.20. it also hit the double cold in races 8 and 9 for $87.20.when I get a match on the top pick for overall and power that's a single in the exotics.
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Red: What version of Handifast are you using - anything later than the 2.0 HH has made available? I can't bet SA because of the ADW/Tracknet idiocy, but I was playing the last 2 at SA yesterday in a contest.
While I did use both winners in the contest, Rockin Rose was the 2nd PWR behind Love To Fish Kona and 2nd FAST behind Slew's Copy. Cat By The Tale was 2nd in both as well behind Diamondrella.
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01-03-2010, 09:54 AM
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crusty old guy
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Snarkytown USA
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There's no new version that I am aware of. I checked and the winner was only 2nd in PWR (tied for 1st in C-C). Not that it matters (2nd is pretty good) as it was the top choice at fair odds of 3.3.
Thanks for the reports about weights and how Handifast is being used. I believe that this is what Doug intended when he started this whole thing.
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