Hillary Clinton

[PaceAdvantage]

Originally Posted by mostpost

The principle that a few billionaire oligarchs should not be able to run the country. The principle that a man should be justly compensated for his labor.

Tell us sage...did anything change much over the last 7+ years under your Democratic Party President?

Or are the billionaire oligarchs still running the country as they always have, no matter who sits in the White House?

Yeah...I thought so...

And how are wages doing for the middle class? Stagnant as always?

Yeah, I thought so.

Great pick there, that Obama. Way to go mostie!

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

Originally Posted by mostpost

I support the Democratic Party because of principle. The principle that a few billionaire oligarchs should not be able to run the country. The principle that a man should be justly compensated for his labor.

Most business people are honest and do their best to offer their employees fair wages and benefits. But what happens when someone starts to cut corners and cut prices, because they are not offering those benefits or not providing a safe workplace? They start to gain a larger share of the marketplace and the other businesses have to start cutting the same corners.
Regulations make it more difficult to cut those corners and provide a stable market.

Enough prostelytyzing. (sp?)

Is that why billionaire Mark Cuban has promoted himself to be Hillary's running mate? Seems he thinks that billionaires get a fairer shake with the Democrats -- as does Warren Buffett and Bill Gates, and of course, George Soros. I won't say that the Democratic Party is the home to all American billionaires, but to attach that label to Republicans is, quite frankly, a damnable lie not supported by anything but Democratic Party political hack liars.

As for business people offering fair wages and benefits for their employees, that would be great if Obama's economic policies did not remove tens of thousands of jobs and chase businesses overseas where they can offer those deals to workers who are not Americans.

Are you in the workplace? There are less jobs, and many of them are taken by non-Americans. Wages are down severely as many employers no longer require 40-hour work weeks. And talk to people who have full-time jobs. Job security is ancient history. Virtually every worker goes to work every day wondering if 'today is my last.'

Regulations do a lot more than making it difficult for businesses to cut corners. In fact, they also can stop abject criminal behavior. It was LACK OF PROPER REGULATIONS that was a big factor in the 2008 economic collapse. Bill Clinton has publicly taken blame for letting derivatives go on without regulation. He shares blame with Congress.

Regulations are imperative. But be clear that DEregulation is not UNregulation. Every time a problem is uncovered, the government destroys businesses by raising the cost of doing business with nonsense regulations that costs MILLIONS to follow.

Those costs are either passed on to consumers or chase companies out of business. There is no third option. Those are the only two. Do you have any idea what Sarbanes-Oxley and Dodd-Frank costs businesses? So many jobs were lost due to those go-too-far regulations.The thought behind them wasright, the reality of those laws are nightmares.

I simply have no idea what people are thinking when they say they want more of the same nightmare. They have to be lifelong Democrats who are stuck in cement.

[Pensacola Pete]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Tell us sage...did anything change much over the last 7+ years under your Democratic Party President?

Or are the billionaire oligarchs still running the country as they always have, no matter who sits in the White House?

Yeah...I thought so...

And how are wages doing for the middle class? Stagnant as always?

Yeah, I thought so.

Great pick there, that Obama. Way to go mostie!

Romney wouldn't have been any better, nor would McCain in 2008, nor would Kerry in 2004, nor would Gore in 2000, nor would Dole in 1996, nor would any others in the past half century.

Wages have been stagnant for the middle class since the unions lost their power, and since the companies put their collective feet down against $35/hour (this in the late 1970s and very early 1980s money) for such as welders and auto workers.

There's a reason for that: money rules this country, not the president, not Congress, not the government. Big business and the wealthy make the rules; politicians are just figureheads.

Moving on.....

It doesn't matter if we elect Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, Jill Stein, Bill Richardson, Ralph Nader, Chuck Norris, or the ghost of Buffalo Bob Smith. Nothing will change, because human nature doesn't change.

As far as debt goes, it nearly doubled under Reagan's 8 years, went up moderately during Clinton's 8 years, and nearly doubled under Bush's 8 years. It's due to nearly double again under Obama, but economists estimate that about $3 trillion of the debt that's accumulated under Obama was due to policies and practices set by the Bush administration, e.g. the fact that spending can't increase by 7%, while taxes decrease by 5%, without the deficit spiraling out of sight, the government can't guarantee unsound mortgages, etc. And Bush Jr. got us into wars against two countries (which may or may not have been justified), and had to be talked out of going into a third one against North Korea and a fourth one against Iran.

Obama has been no saint, either with his giveaways, but a lot of the problems stem from Republicans playing "obstructionism" at every turn. They aren't doing it because they're practicing for when they go home at night to play Guild Wars. They do it because their interest groups (i.e. big money) tell them to, the same as the Democrats' interest groups tell them what to do. Which brings us back to human nature: Most rich people got that way because of an insatiable desire for money --- another word is "greed" --- and they always want more, are always afraid of losing even a minuscule amount of what they have, and don't want to share it with those who have less.

Whoever the president is at the time is a fine target to vent one's frustrations, but he/she isn't the real problem.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by mostpost

The FBI never makes any decisions on indictment. The FBI collects the evidence and presents it to the prosecutor. He decides whether to move forward. You make it sound as if this is something different.

Well then it is urgent that you contact the A.G. immediately and explain the process of her job to her, because she said that she would defer to the Director of the FBI and her staff in making the decision.

“I will be accepting their recommendations,” Ms. Lynch said in an appearance at the Aspen Ideas Festival. She said that “the case will be resolved by the same team that has been working on it from the beginning.”

The attorney general said she had decided several months ago to defer to the recommendations of her staff and of the director of the F.B.I. because her status as a political appointee sitting in judgment on a politically charged case would raise questions of a conflict of interest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/us...=top-news&_r=0

[Tom]

Romney wouldn't have been any better, nor would McCain in 2008, nor would Kerry in 2004, nor would Gore in 2000, nor would Dole in 1996, nor would any others in the past half century.

Bin Laden would have been better than this slug.

[johnhannibalsmith]

Originally Posted by mostpost

I'm not sure what it is I wouldn't admit. I think I have always been open about what I believe. I have been a supporter of the Clinton's since he ran for president in 1992. I supported Hillary in the primaries in 2008, and when she lost I supported Barack Obama.

...

So if I read between the lines here, you don't claim to have supported Hillary in the primaries in 2016. That's a positive in my opinion if I'm reading correctly and you should, in my opinion, make a point of promoting the fact that you supported Bernie in the primary. As much as I'm not on board with his politics for the most part, he is a decent man and one of the few that can convincingly still claim to be a public servant.

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

Originally Posted by Pensacola Pete

Romney wouldn't have been any better, nor would McCain in 2008, nor would Kerry in 2004, nor would Gore in 2000, nor would Dole in 1996, nor would any others in the past half century.

Wages have been stagnant for the middle class since the unions lost their power, and since the companies put their collective feet down against $35/hour (this in the late 1970s and very early 1980s money) for such as welders and auto workers.

There's a reason for that: money rules this country, not the president, not Congress, not the government. Big business and the wealthy make the rules; politicians are just figureheads.

Moving on.....

It doesn't matter if we elect Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, Jill Stein, Bill Richardson, Ralph Nader, Chuck Norris, or the ghost of Buffalo Bob Smith. Nothing will change, because human nature doesn't change.

As far as debt goes, it nearly doubled under Reagan's 8 years, went up moderately during Clinton's 8 years, and nearly doubled under Bush's 8 years. It's due to nearly double again under Obama, but economists estimate that about $3 trillion of the debt that's accumulated under Obama was due to policies and practices set by the Bush administration, e.g. the fact that spending can't increase by 7%, while taxes decrease by 5%, without the deficit spiraling out of sight, the government can't guarantee unsound mortgages, etc. And Bush Jr. got us into wars against two countries (which may or may not have been justified), and had to be talked out of going into a third one against North Korea and a fourth one against Iran.

Obama has been no saint, either with his giveaways, but a lot of the problems stem from Republicans playing "obstructionism" at every turn. They aren't doing it because they're practicing for when they go home at night to play Guild Wars. They do it because their interest groups (i.e. big money) tell them to, the same as the Democrats' interest groups tell them what to do. Which brings us back to human nature: Most rich people got that way because of an insatiable desire for money --- another word is "greed" --- and they always want more, are always afraid of losing even a minuscule amount of what they have, and don't want to share it with those who have less.

Whoever the president is at the time is a fine target to vent one's frustrations, but he/she isn't the real problem.

You make a lot of valid points, except I see absolutely no relation between the shrinking union population and lower wages.

The President is always the target for everything that goes wrong. Frequently, he had little or no impact. This time it is different. There would be no Affordable Health Care Act nightmare without Obama. Obama does not get full blame for the millions of jobs that have disappeared, but he does get MORE than his fair share. Obama did not start the road to incredible debt, but he accelerated it to unimaginable heights.

I only wish the Republicans were more obstructionist on his nightmare policies. The Republicans came to power in 2014 because America finally realized that Obama was destroying the country -- and they did NOTHING! Now, they want us to believe they will end the Obama nightmare if we vote for them in 2016.

This is why the election of Donald Trump is so very important. None of us can honestly say, 'TRUMP WILL BE A GREAT PRESIDENT.' We do not know. I can provide a list of reasons to not want this man. But the list of reasons to elect him far outweighs the reasons to vote elsewhere-- or stay away from the polls.

1) He is not a politician. Career politicians in both MAJOR parties have taken us down a rat hole from which we may never recover.

2) He cannot be bought out by special interests. This is why both Democratic and Republican establishment members want him to lose. They fear the gravy train of bribes and corruption may end -- and the American people may actually be the treated with more value than the two political parties.

3) Other countries may actually fear what the US may do for a change. How many of you are old enough to remember the first day President Reagan took office? The American prisoners of the government of Iran were released that very day after months of captivity as they had no fear of President Carter. Walk softly but carry a big stick -- Teddy Roosevelt.

4) Donald Trump loathes political correctness. This causes him to say some outrageous things from time to time. But political correctness kills, as witnessed in San Bernardino when neighbors of the terrorists feared saying something for fear of being labeled bigots or racists.

5) Donald Trump knows how to work with foreign countries without giving away the store. I do not support everything he did in business. Hiding behind the bankruptcy laws to avoid paying creditors is unethical. Legal? 100% Ethical? Not in my way of thinking. However, I do like that he fights every lawsuit because so many in this country sue the big guy assuming an easy target because it is not worth his time to fight. That is an attitude we need for running the country.

6) Start from a position of strength then modify as appropriate. Not the other way around. Many thought Trump over the top when he thought that 'banning all Muslims until we can figure out what to do' was too far over the top. Unfortunately, the current administration is at 180 degrees opposite. 'Let's make sure we are sure who the bad guys really are before we do anything.' You can modify BAN ALL MUSLIMS. You cannot undo terrorist murders. That is the way to address all serious issues. Start from extreme strength and modify as appropriate. We cannot remain the world's play thing.

7) He is not Hillary Clinton. I have more reasons to vote for Trump, but that's enough for now. Bill and Hillary Clinton are just plain evil. Here are two links. The first shows the long list of Hillary nightmares. The second is a list of people who died under unusual circumstances. There is no court-of-law type evidence that can make you think those deaths were anything but what they are. But when you see the untimeliness of these coincidences, I defy anyone to apply common sense and not see the Clinton link. (Those deaths are 100% truths. The Clinton people only challenge that they were all coincidences.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/#!

https://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia....ile-president/

[Marshall Bennett]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Socialism has failed more often than not.
eg. The collapse of the Soviet Union.
Socialists know that they can only survive by living within Capitalist systems.
They are like sea gulls following a ferry who expect handouts from paying passengers.
Unfortunately Socialists within Capitalistic societies seem to demand more and more. For example Sanders wants free tuition for University Students.
Who does he want to get the money from to pay that?
Socialists believe that the rich are too rich and they want to flatten the pyramid.
But there would be no pyramid to flatten if everyone followed their ideology.
Hence they leech at whatever capitalist tit they can find.

Also might add that it's human nature for good people to want to better themselves and have more for their families. This starts at the poverty level and goes all the way up the ladder. There's not a cut-off point.
Socialism defies any common bond with this logic. This is why socialism never works and basically never has. People are not happy with restraints put on them. The desire to do better is a human trait, not a political one. When a society becomes overly unhappy as has been the history with socialist / communist countries, because they cannot function as nature intended, they always fall apart in some form or another.

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown

You make a lot of valid points, except I see absolutely no relation between the shrinking union population and lower wages.

The President is always the target for everything that goes wrong. Frequently, he had little or no impact. This time it is different. There would be no Affordable Health Care Act nightmare without Obama. Obama does not get full blame for the millions of jobs that have disappeared, but he does get MORE than his fair share. Obama did not start the road to incredible debt, but he accelerated it to unimaginable heights.

I only wish the Republicans were more obstructionist on his nightmare policies. The Republicans came to power in 2014 because America finally realized that Obama was destroying the country -- and they did NOTHING! Now, they want us to believe they will end the Obama nightmare if we vote for them in 2016.

This is why the election of Donald Trump is so very important. None of us can honestly say, 'TRUMP WILL BE A GREAT PRESIDENT.' We do not know. I can provide a list of reasons to not want this man. But the list of reasons to elect him far outweighs the reasons to vote elsewhere-- or stay away from the polls.

1) He is not a politician. Career politicians in both MAJOR parties have taken us down a rat hole from which we may never recover.
So he does not know how to deal with politicians. He has no coherent policies and in the extremely unlikely event he ever formulates any, he will be able to implement them.

2) He cannot be bought out by special interests. This is why both Democratic and Republican establishment members want him to lose. They fear the gravy train of bribes and corruption may end -- and the American people may actually be the treated with more value than the two political parties.
He is a special interest all unto himself.

3) Other countries may actually fear what the US may do for a change. How many of you are old enough to remember the first day President Reagan took office? The American prisoners of the government of Iran were released that very day after months of captivity as they had no fear of President Carter. Walk softly but carry a big stick -- Teddy Roosevelt.
The Iranians had signaled long before the election that they were willing to release the hostages. But, as early as the Last week of July 1980: At a meeting in Madrid arranged by the Hashimi brothers that includes Robert Gray, a man identified as Donald Gregg, and Mahdi Karrubi, William Casey says that if Iran could assure that American hostages were well treated until their release and were released as a "gift" to the new administration, "the Republicans would be most grateful and 'would give Iran its strength back.'"
And in fact, shortly after the hostages were released, Israel sent F14 aircraft parts to Iran. And we all know about Iran Contra, which happened later, but could be connected.

And what do you think Reagan would have done if the hostages were not released? His actions in the Marine barracks bombing certainly don't indicate any particular courage.

4) Donald Trump loathes political correctness. This causes him to say some outrageous things from time to time. But political correctness kills, as witnessed in San Bernardino when neighbors of the terrorists feared saying something for fear of being labeled bigots or racists.
Trump hates courtesy and decency. He is a bully who has to have his way.

5) Donald Trump knows how to work with foreign countries without giving away the store. I do not support everything he did in business. Hiding behind the bankruptcy laws to avoid paying creditors is unethical. Legal? 100% Ethical? Not in my way of thinking. However, I do like that he fights every lawsuit because so many in this country sue the big guy assuming an easy target because it is not worth his time to fight. That is an attitude we need for running the country.
Bluster and bullying will not work with foreign countries. Our enemies will hate us more and our friends will no longer be our friends. It was bad when Bush was president. It will be much worse if Trump is.

6) Start from a position of strength then modify as appropriate. Not the other way around. Many thought Trump over the top when he thought that 'banning all Muslims until we can figure out what to do' was too far over the top. Unfortunately, the current administration is at 180 degrees opposite. 'Let's make sure we are sure who the bad guys really are before we do anything.' You can modify BAN ALL MUSLIMS. You cannot undo terrorist murders. That is the way to address all serious issues. Start from extreme strength and modify as appropriate. We cannot remain the world's play thing.
If we ban the members of one group, there is no limit to the number of groups we can ban. if we can ban anyone, what is to prevent us from incarcerating anyone for any or no reason.
7) He is not Hillary Clinton. I have more reasons to vote for Trump, but that's enough for now. Bill and Hillary Clinton are just plain evil. Here are two links. The first shows the long list of Hillary nightmares. The second is a list of people who died under unusual circumstances. There is no court-of-law type evidence that can make you think those deaths were anything but what they are. But when you see the untimeliness of these coincidences, I defy anyone to apply common sense and not see the Clinton link. (Those deaths are 100% truths. The Clinton people only challenge that they were all coincidences.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/#!

https://libyaagainstsuperpowermedia....ile-president/

Indeed he is not Hillary Clinton.
Donald Trump has never released his tax returns. Hillary Clinton has released more than 30 years of returns.

Donald Trump has used a fake university to steal money from people who are least able to afford it.

Bill Clinton, along with GHW Bush raised $54.4 M for Haitian earthquake relief.

In 2005, Clinton again with Bush raised $90M for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

[Tom]

Bill Clinton, along with GHW Bush raised $54.4 M for Haitian earthquake relief.

In 2005, Clinton again with Bush raised $90M for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Yes, he sold off a few of his Chester the Molester Cee-gars.
To his credit, some money came from the Clinton foundation and Massage Parlor.

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

Originally Posted by mostpost

Indeed he is not Hillary Clinton.
Donald Trump has never released his tax returns. Hillary Clinton has released more than 30 years of returns.

Donald Trump has used a fake university to steal money from people who are least able to afford it.

Bill Clinton, along with GHW Bush raised $54.4 M for Haitian earthquake relief.

In 2005, Clinton again with Bush raised $90M for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Excellent job not trying to refute anything I said, because you know they are all true. Ripping apart everything you say is painfully easy.

1) Only the Democrats care about tax returns. Trump has an explanation. You can believe it or not. But did you like the way Hillary squirmed when Bernie asked her to release the transcripts of her lectures to Morgan Stanley. No explanation as to why she won't talk. That is where the tax return irrelevancy was born. It was Hillary hiding from the truth -- as usual.

2) Please explain how Trump University was fake. It was a business that provided real estate training. I understand Hillary backers know nothing about business. This is another non-issue brought up to avoid talking about anything Hillary has done. Trump claims it was great. I doubt it. America does not care if it was one of his successful businesses or one of his failing businesses. Hillary backers know nothing about successful business people. Businesses provide jobs. (Oh, I forgot, Hillary is on record to say they do not.) They think if they did not score 100% they are lousy. That's like saying a third base coach is a failure because he gets runners thrown out at home. Find more of his businesses that did not work. There are more.

3) Congratulations to Bill Clinton for participating in the Haitian earthquake relief and victims of Hurricane Katrina. Great job. Should we talk about all the great things George W Bush did for African relief that neither Clinton nor Obama did. More irrelevance from a supporter of a candidate that is worthless.

As to my point about Hillary not believing that businesses create jobs. I don't have to invent anything. In her own ignorant words...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/sF--fnwftHI

[mostpost]

Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown

Excellent job not trying to refute anything I said, because you know they are all true. Ripping apart everything you say is painfully easy.

1) Only the Democrats care about tax returns. Trump has an explanation. You can believe it or not. But did you like the way Hillary squirmed when Bernie asked her to release the transcripts of her lectures to Morgan Stanley. No explanation as to why she won't talk. That is where the tax return irrelevancy was born. It was Hillary hiding from the truth -- as usual.
Trump claims he can't release his returns because he is undergoing an IRS audit. The IRS says that he is not.

Here are several more compelling reasons.
1. Trump brags about being a very generous philanthropist. The returns could prove that this is not the case.
2. The returns could prove that Trump pay a very low tax rate.
3. The return could show that Trump has a lot of money in off shore accounts.

I see no reason why Hillary Clinton should release the transcripts of her talks at Morgan Stanley. Those were private meetings for MS employees.

2) Please explain how Trump University was fake. It was a business that provided real estate training. I understand Hillary backers know nothing about business. This is another non-issue brought up to avoid talking about anything Hillary has done. Trump claims it was great. I doubt it. America does not care if it was one of his successful businesses or one of his failing businesses. Hillary backers know nothing about successful business people. Businesses provide jobs. (Oh, I forgot, Hillary is on record to say they do not.) They think if they did not score 100% they are lousy. That's like saying a third base coach is a failure because he gets runners thrown out at home. Find more of his businesses that did not work. There are more.
Trump University was not an accredited university. Trump University was a bait and switch. Prospective students were told they would get something for a certain price and after they paid they were told about all the extras necessary to achieve their goals-all at a much larger cost.

Students were promised many things that were not delivered. They were promised a personal mentor. They got the name of a person who did not answer his/her phone; did not return emails and was never present at the school. Students were promised that Trump himself was going to present a series of seminars. He presented none.

3) Congratulations to Bill Clinton for participating in the Haitian earthquake relief and victims of Hurricane Katrina. Great job. Should we talk about all the great things George W Bush did for African relief that neither Clinton nor Obama did. More irrelevance from a supporter of a candidate that is worthless.
Congratulations to George W. Bush for his work in African relief and malaria control. While he was doing that, the Clinton Foundation was working to reduce the cost and increase the availability of the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
In 2002 when the Clinton Health Access Initiative was started there were 2200 people in low and middle income countries receiving treatment at a cost of $10,000 a year per patient. By 2009 that number had increased to 8,000,000 at a cost of $100 to $200 a year.

As to my point about Hillary not believing that businesses create jobs. I don't have to invent anything. In her own ignorant words...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/sF--fnwftHI

You've posted this silly video at least three times in three different threads. Are you working on commission?

The people on your side of the aisle are really dumb about this creating jobs thing. Businesses don't create jobs. Businesses provide jobs. There is a difference. Jobs are created when there is a demand for the product the business is providing. To satisfy the demand, labor must build the product. For the demand to continue, consumers must be paid a sufficient wage.

Business creating jobs is not like God saying "Let there be light" and there was light. A lot of factors go into the creation of jobs. Business provides one of those factors. Others provide more.

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l?intcmp=hpbt1

Can we trust the FBI to do the right thing? Of course Obama will pardon her anyway before the election.

[Jess Hawsen Arown]

Originally Posted by mostpost

You've posted this silly video at least three times in three different threads. Are you working on commission?

The people on your side of the aisle are really dumb about this creating jobs thing. Businesses don't create jobs. Businesses provide jobs. There is a difference. Jobs are created when there is a demand for the product the business is providing. To satisfy the demand, labor must build the product. For the demand to continue, consumers must be paid a sufficient wage.

Business creating jobs is not like God saying "Let there be light" and there was light. A lot of factors go into the creation of jobs. Business provides one of those factors. Others provide more.

Silly video? Well since everyone enjoys a good laugh, I'll be sure to post it more often. Needless to say, your response is unique to the words of the evil woman than others who have seen it.

Businesses don't create jobs. Businesses provide jobs. There is a difference. There is? I'm sure you don't mind me quoting you on that one. Right?

And then...To satisfy the demand, labor must build the product. For the demand to continue, consumers must be paid a sufficient wage.
This one is even better. Needs no further comment. However I will not pass it on as a display for the liberal minds without your permission. Permission for these two quotes?

Keep posting. As opposed to Democrats who try to kill the free speech of people with whom they disagree, we Americans believe in free speech and your attempts at logic are priceless.

[Clocker]

Originally Posted by mostpost

The people on your side of the aisle are really dumb about this creating jobs thing. Businesses don't create jobs. Businesses provide jobs. There is a difference. Jobs are created when there is a demand for the product the business is providing. To satisfy the demand, labor must build the product. For the demand to continue, consumers must be paid a sufficient wage.

Business creating jobs is not like God saying "Let there be light" and there was light. A lot of factors go into the creation of jobs. Business provides one of those factors. Others provide more.

And what is that 'more' that others provide, pixie dust and unicorns?

I suggest that you stick to talking to God about light and other such topics, and post Kool-Aid driven dogma like this in the religious thread. It has not the faintest relationship to economics.

A job (a real job, not a redistribution of wealth job) is created when, and only when, a business, an entrepreneur, invests money to purchase capital and hire workers. He does so at his own risk, in the belief that there will be demand for his product or service, and that he can sell it above cost. There is always plenty of demand out there. There are no jobs until someone finds a way to satisfy that demand while making money at it.