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Old 08-29-2020, 08:40 PM   #1
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Honor A.P.

Honor A.P. had his final major work

https://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/h...ust-29th-2020/
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Old 08-31-2020, 07:50 AM   #2
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I don't get much out of workouts unless they are *really bad*.

This horse is such a looker, can he ever look bad, doing anything?

There's some things trainers do that I don't understand though. I woudn't mind chatting it out with others. For instance, the only race Tiz did bad in was at Churchill......so where does trainer have him working? At Saratoga.

I don't get these kinds of moves. We know he moves well over the surface at SAR. The Derby is at CDX.

And why is Biancone training over turf? Okay horse had a small injury, it's kinder. I understand interval training, and different surfaces, from knowing marathon runner humans.......train over sand, then on asphalt or light trails..........likie the Japan horses will do uphills on mulch-like stuff then dirt on the straight.. But turf, turf, turf and turf.......I don't get it, for a dirt race?

I just like to think about how I would train my horse and I like watching what everybody does, like Asmussen has the last workouts before a race timed IMPECCABLY, that is something he is so good at, always at exactly right amount of time before a big race. Guy knows how to schedule works, no doubt about it.

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Old 08-31-2020, 11:16 AM   #3
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There's some things trainers do that I don't understand though. I woudn't mind chatting it out with others. For instance, the only race Tiz did bad in was at Churchill......so where does trainer have him working? At Saratoga.
I'm going to guess he believes the horse's subpar race at CD had more to do with being trapped inside on a sloppy track than handling the surface at CD in general. I have mixed feelings about that race. He was in an uncomfortable spot, but when he finally got free and made his run he got outkicked by another horse. If I owned him, Id just be hoping it didn't rain.
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Old 08-31-2020, 03:35 PM   #4
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I have mixed feelings about that race.
Very strong race.
A lot of wins down the road exited that race.
It's paid off nicely to play out of the KJC.
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Old 09-01-2020, 04:37 PM   #5
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I'm going to guess he believes the horse's subpar race at CD had more to do with being trapped inside on a sloppy track than handling the surface at CD in general. I have mixed feelings about that race. He was in an uncomfortable spot, but when he finally got free and made his run he got outkicked by another horse. If I owned him, Id just be hoping it didn't rain.
Forecast is 82 and mostly sunny Saturday. Should be a beautiful day here in Louisville.
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Old 09-02-2020, 07:17 PM   #6
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Question?
Does anyone know if Mike Smith have the option to ride both Honor A.P. & Authentic and opted for Honor A.P.?

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Does anyone know if Mike Smith have the option to ride both Honor A.P. & Authentic and opted for Honor A.P.?

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he did, and stuck with Honor AP.
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Old 09-03-2020, 01:57 PM   #8
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I'm kind of surprised that there hasn't been more publicity surrounding one aspect of this.

Smith is 55. He has the chance to break one of horse racing's more iconic records: Shoemaker was 54 when he won the Derby on Ferdinand.
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Old 09-03-2020, 02:29 PM   #9
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I like Smith but still wondering what the heck he was thinking in the SB stakes. Almost looked like they were just testing the horse and didn't care about the finish. He's my #2 but I have reservations. Horse doesn't seem to have that extra gear; just keeps moving along. Potentially needs a cleaner trip than others but should get it from the outside.
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I like Smith but still wondering what the heck he was thinking in the SB stakes. Almost looked like they were just testing the horse and didn't care about the finish. He's my #2 but I have reservations. Horse doesn't seem to have that extra gear; just keeps moving along. Potentially needs a cleaner trip than others but should get it from the outside.
Big strong horses give him trouble these days.
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Big strong horses give him trouble these days.
Is Honor AP one of those horses?
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Honor A.P. got squeezed at the start. Found himself in no mans land, outside and towards the back (last). He did run a credible 4th.
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Honor A.P. got squeezed at the start. Found himself in no mans land, outside and towards the back (last). He did run a credible 4th.
Every damn time I make a refundable win wager (if horse comes in second or third) the damn thing comes in fourth. It almost never fails. A better break and he's probably in the money.
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Honor A.P. got squeezed at the start. Found himself in no mans land, outside and towards the back (last). He did run a credible 4th.
I thought Honor A. P. ran a very good race. Before the race, Mike Smith said that he was concerned about the start because Honor A. P. had gone sideways in his prior start and Smith said that if he did that again, he wouldn't be able to leave for position, which is what happened and he was next to last.
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Honor A.P. got squeezed at the start. Found himself in no mans land, outside and towards the back (last). He did run a credible 4th.
Very credible
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