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[f2tornado]

Horse (Trainer/Jockey) Odds

War of Will (Mark Casse/Tyler Gaffalione) 20/1

Tax (Danny Gargen/Junior Alvarado) 20/1

By My Standards (W. Bret Calhoun/Gabriel Saez) 20/1

Gray Magician (Peter Miller/Drayden Van Dyke) 50/1

Improbable (Bob Baffert/Irad Ortiz Jr.) 6/1

Vekoma (George Weaver/Javier Castellano) 20/1

Maximum Security (Jason Servis/Luis Saez) 10/1

Tacitus (William Mott/Jose Ortiz) 10/1

Plus Que Parfait (Brendan Walsh/Ricardo Santana Jr.) 30/1

Cutting Humor (Todd Pletcher/ corey lanerie 30/1

Haikal (Kiaran McLaughlin/Rajiv Maragh) 30/1

Omaha Beach (Richard Mandella/Mike Smith) 4/1

Code of Honor (Claude McGaughey III/John Velasquez) 15/1

Win Win Win (Michael Trombetta/Julian Pimentel) 15/1

Master Fencer (Koichi Tsunoda/Julien Leparoux) 50/1

Game Winner (Bob Baffert/Joel Rosario) 5/1

Roadster (Bob Baffert/Florent Geroux) 6/1

Long Range Toddy (Steve Asmussen/Jon Court) 30/1

Spinoff (Todd Pletcher/Manny Franco) 30/1

Country House (William Mott/Flavien Prat) 30/1

Also-eligible:

Bodexpress (Gustavo Delgado/Chris Landeros) 30/1

[Fingal]

Baffert is just happy he didn't draw the #1.

[reckless]

Good draw for Omaha Beach it looks to me. With late runners on both sides he could clearly come away at the start and settle comfortably, even as an early speed type runner.

[f2tornado]

No post excuses for most. The draw doesn’t change my top plays but I might drop some from the gimmicks. I think Maximum Security got the perfect post for his style. Omaha should be sitting nice in the 12. Game Winner seems to like the outside but would have preferred him in the main gate. Improbable gets a hot gate. Glad to see Roadster drawing the cursed 17 hole.

[Run Nicholas Run]

The Beach is a LOCK , easy play in any matchups
thats offered as he is the winner.

[Hoops McCann]

can't get much better for Omaha Beach. Improbable will have to hustle early a bit to get in to position so a quick break is critical for him. Tacitus also perfect in the 8 gate. that's my trifecta.

[Robert Fischer]

Originally Posted by Hoops McCann

can't get much better for Omaha Beach. Improbable will have to hustle early a bit to get in to position so a quick break is critical for him. Tacitus also perfect in the 8 gate. that's my trifecta.

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[LemonSoupKid]

Just looking back on the wet tracks back to Orb, who was PP 16, the only closer to do it, and as I said on another post, that was the 4th fastest 1/2 and 3/4 in Derby history.

Every other wet track since then (2017, 5-Always Dreaming and 2018, 7-Justify) was post 1-11 in the top 3, including 1- Lookin at Lee

In the Orb year, by the way, the second through sixth place finishers were numbers 1,2,3,4,5 (it went 3-2-4-5-1). PP 6 was 50-1 and finished 10th. Oxbow was post 1 and he finished 6th.

Just saying.

[Thomas Roulston]

But shouldn't the order of selecting post positions be determined by the point system; i.e. the owner of whichever horse had the most points getting the first choice of post position?

This rewards the top horses, and in some cases might provide some owners with an incentive to run horses that have presumably already qualified for the Derby field to run one more time and try and get an earlier choice of post position.

[BlueChip@DRF]

Originally Posted by LemonSoupKid

Just looking back on the wet tracks back to Orb, who was PP 16, the only closer to do it, and as I said on another post, that was the 4th fastest 1/2 and 3/4 in Derby history.

Every other wet track since then (2017, 5-Always Dreaming and 2018, 7-Justify) was post 1-11 in the top 3, including 1- Lookin at Lee

In the Orb year, by the way, the second through sixth place finishers were numbers 1,2,3,4,5 (it went 3-2-4-5-1). PP 6 was 50-1 and finished 10th. Oxbow was post 1 and he finished 6th.

Just saying.

2018: 7* 6 5 15 sloppy/sealed
2017: 5* 1 11 14 wet fast/sealed
2016: 13* 11 5 14 fast
2015: 18* 10 8 15 fast
2014: 5* 17 4 20 fast
2013: 16* 4 3 5 sloppy/sealed
2012: 19 6* 5 13 fast
2011: 16 19 13 14 fast
2010: 4 2 10 9 sloppy/sealed
2009: 8 16 2 7 sloppy/sealed
2008: 20 5 16 2 fast
2007: 7* 8 2 5 fast
2006: 8 13 2 18/1 fast
2005: 10 18 12 17 fast
2004: 15* 3 10 1 sloppy
2003: 6 12 5 4 fast
2002: 5 13 3 9 fast
2001: 16 13 8 4 fast
2000: 12 5 1C 9 fast

* = post time favorite