Trump chickens out

[PaceAdvantage]

Imagine thinking the black vote and the LGBT vote is something any Republican is counting on these days...

Weirdly, if any candidate is going to score with the black community on the Republican side, it's likely to be Trump. I say weirdly, because if you believe the media gaslighting, this shouldn't be possible.

But we saw him gain with the Black vote in 2020...and he's likely to gain even more in 2024 given how poorly the Democrats are perceived in the black community these days...

[Tom]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

The idea of Trump was brilliant and necessary.

The actual results of 4 years of Trump were on the underwhelming side.

I don't think anyone can debate this point.

Trump got OWNED by the very thing he vowed to drain...the swamp...

But the idea is still valid. We just need a new mechanism by which to try and make the idea a reality.

I would say he got more done than anyonee since Reagan.
If you drain the swamp, there another swamp under it.
You better sweep up the beeches.
He would havbe gotten more done if the GOP had any brains or balls.

DeSantis a viable option?

[fast4522]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Imagine thinking the black vote and the LGBT vote is something any Republican is counting on these days...

Weirdly, if any candidate is going to score with the black community on the Republican side, it's likely to be Trump. I say weirdly, because if you believe the media gaslighting, this shouldn't be possible.

But we saw him gain with the Black vote in 2020...and he's likely to gain even more in 2024 given how poorly the Democrats are perceived in the black community these days...

Imagine not pissing off voting blocks, very interesting concept even a moron can grasp. DeSantis has blacks and gays steadfast against him very early in this primary contest. You can not make this shit up, you have to hand it to the meatball.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

DeSantis couldn't wait to debate Trump. He'd chew Trump's ass and spit it out on the way the two handled covid. Trump can't stand to be wrong and DeSantis would have embarrassed Trump on stage. Rightfully so

Christie has no shot but would be never ending on Trump with the indictments that are actually an issue.

Trump pussied out, expect him to stay in the basement until the polls start tightening up. It's what pussies do when they have nothing to debate with

You can't imagine how refreshing it is for me to read something like this from a confirmed Republican voter. It restores my faith in mankind because it proves to me that we don't all have to be mindless robots who are hypnotized by what the "company line' is dishing out to us.

[AndyC]

Originally Posted by ElKabong

DeSantis couldn't wait to debate Trump. He'd chew Trump's ass and spit it out on the way the two handled covid. Trump can't stand to be wrong and DeSantis would have embarrassed Trump on stage. Rightfully so

Christie has no shot but would be never ending on Trump with the indictments that are actually an issue.

Trump pussied out, expect him to stay in the basement until the polls start tightening up. It's what pussies do when they have nothing to debate with

Is there some GOP out there voter who doesn't know where Trump stands on every issue? Let the crowd thin out before engaging in meaningful debate. A debate with Trump will be about Trump. A debate without Trump will allow the field to best present themselves.

[Inner Dirt]

How about a Vivek, Tim Scott ticket, in either order? Then we can be like Democrats and call anyone disagreeing with them a racist. What Democrats call racist shows how freaking pathetic they are. After the most recent statewide election here quite a few headlines said "Racism rears it's ugly head in Virginia again." I found that odd as a black lady was elected Lt. Governor. last I checked. That is one out of three, the other two seats went to white people.

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by AndyC

Is there some GOP out there voter who doesn't know where Trump stands on every issue? Let the crowd thin out before engaging in meaningful debate. A debate with Trump will be about Trump. A debate without Trump will allow the field to best present themselves.

Trump will make sure that this debate is about him, even if he is not there. Because he will sit down for another fluff interview with Tucker Carlson right after the debate...where he will air out his prepared rebuttal to his loyal followers, without anyone having the opportunity to respond to his rhetoric. That's what scared little boys do. And then Trump's rebuttal will garner more attention from the Republicans than the original debate will.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

You can't imagine how refreshing it is for me to read something like this from a confirmed Republican voter. It restores my faith in mankind because it proves to me that we don't all have to be mindless robots who are hypnotized by what the "company line' is dishing out to us.

What the hell are you talking about? I know plenty of Republicans personally who buck the company line on many issues, including myself. My big one is I am pro choice, to clarify the idea of abortion sickens me but I see no good in forcing a woman to have an unwanted child. I have known many women who wanted their baby to no end that had the hormone changes drive them and everyone around them crazy, just think if those ladies were carrying a child they did not want, God help us.


On the other hand a very high percentage of Democrats I have known are 100% company line.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Imagine thinking the black vote and the LGBT vote is something any Republican is counting on these days...

The only black vote Republicans are getting is black white supremacists and the black people that are not black. Not sure on the last one if it is a skin pigmentation issue or something else. I have never heard a good definition of the later. Does it have to do with likes and dislikes? If you like hard rock or country and not hip hop, blues and funk does that mean you are not black?
I like funk and blues among other things, does that mean I am not white?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

What the hell are you talking about? I know plenty of Republicans personally who buck the company line on many issues, including myself. My big one is I am pro choice, to clarify the idea of abortion sickens me but I see no good in forcing a woman to have an unwanted child. I have known many women who wanted their baby to no end that had the hormone changes drive them and everyone around them crazy, just think if those ladies were carrying a child they did not want, God help us.


On the other hand a very high percentage of Democrats I have known are 100% company line.

Elkabong's post, to which I responded, was highly critical of TRUMP. TRUMP is the "company line" that I was referring to...not "abortion", or any other issue. Elkabong had the balls to offer an opinion on Trump that had never been uttered by any other Republican member here...and that's why I said that I found it refreshing. I like it when people go "against the grain" on the most polarizing issues...especially when those people are RIGHT, as Elkabong was.

[Inner Dirt]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Elkabong's post, to which I responded, was highly critical of TRUMP. TRUMP is the "company line" that I was referring to...not "abortion", or any other issue. Elkabong had the balls to offer an opinion on Trump that had never been uttered by any other Republican member here...and that's why I said that I found it refreshing. I like it when people go "against the grain" on the most polarizing issues...especially when those people are RIGHT, as Elkabong was.

I have disliked Trump a hell of a lot longer that even the typical Democrat as my dislike of him goes back to when he owned the original New Jersey Generals and filed lawsuits against the NFL. As a small business owner, of which I think you are the same (pardon me if I am incorrect) the way he used to go out of his way to stiff vendors and contractors he owed makes him gutter trash to me. He and his lawyers have been experts at gaming the system. The casino bankruptcy pissed me off, as just more system gaming.
Someone who is a multi billionaire who has 500 businesses should not be getting away with filing BK on the 5 losers to get away with paying off those debts, when the other 495 are profitable and he could pay off the debts of those 5 businesses with the money he hides under his mattress.



In spite of all that I think he was a better candidate, than Hillary "I would eat my grandchildren to be president" or Joe " I pooped my pants" Biden.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

Elkabong's post, to which I responded, was highly critical of TRUMP. TRUMP is the "company line" that I was referring to...not "abortion", or any other issue. Elkabong had the balls to offer an opinion on Trump that had never been uttered by any other Republican member here...and that's why I said that I found it refreshing. I like it when people go "against the grain" on the most polarizing issues...especially when those people are RIGHT, as Elkabong was.

When did Trump start going with the grain?

[thaskalos]

Originally Posted by Inner Dirt

I have disliked Trump a hell of a lot longer that even the typical Democrat as my dislike of him goes back to when he owned the original New Jersey Generals and filed lawsuits against the NFL. As a small business owner, of which I think you are the same (pardon me if I am incorrect) the way he used to go out of his way to stiff vendors and contractors he owed makes him gutter trash to me. He and his lawyers have been experts at gaming the system. The casino bankruptcy pissed me off, as just more system gaming.
Someone who is a multi billionaire who has 500 businesses should not be getting away with filing BK on the 5 losers to get away with paying off those debts, when the other 495 are profitable and he could pay off the debts of those 5 businesses with the money he hides under his mattress.



In spite of all that I think he was a better candidate, than Hillary "I would eat my grandchildren to be president" or Joe " I pooped my pants" Biden.

Is Trump a better presidential candidate than DeSantis?

[thaskalos]

We are drifting away from the point of this thread, boys...the point being that Trump is too scared to take part in the Republican debate. He is no longer the president and the other candidates don't have to kiss his ass anymore. They've had conversations with Trump when he was president, and they know about his megalomaniacal behavior...and Trump is afraid that they will throw this in his face. Haven't you seen what the rest of the White House "insiders" have been saying about him?

Trump is scared, and he will offer his debate rebuttal to Tucker Carlson...where it's safe.

[xtb]

Originally Posted by thaskalos

We are drifting away from the point of this thread, boys...the point being that Trump is too scared to take part in the Republican debate. He is no longer the president and the other candidates don't have to kiss his ass anymore. They've had conversations with Trump when he was president, and they know about his megalomaniacal behavior...and Trump is afraid that they will throw this in his face. Haven't you seen what the rest of the White House "insiders" have been saying about him?

Trump is scared, and he will offer his debate rebuttal to Tucker Carlson...where it's safe.

I guess that means Tucker doesn't hate Trump passionately anymore.