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Old 05-16-2015, 06:27 PM   #1
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Preakness 2015 Final TIme

Slowest in 60 years.
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:31 PM   #2
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Slowest in 60 years.
...run right after a monsoon.
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:31 PM   #3
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Slowest in 60 years.

Its so strange. The Derby was a 95 Beyer and they adjusted up. Will they do the same thing here? Could this crop be this bad?
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:38 PM   #4
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Slowest in 60 years.

It looked to me like the jock really slowed down the pace up the backstretch. I'll have to watch the race again, but that was my impression while watching it live.
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:42 PM   #5
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You might be able to use race 14 at a mile and 1/16 to compare.

Throw the rest out.

Be damn hard to make an accurate speed figure for this one.

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You might be able to use race 14 at a mile and 1/16 to compare.

Throw the rest out.

Be damn hard to make a good speed figure for this one.
A projected speed rating is probably the way to go.
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:47 PM   #7
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You might be able to use race 14 at a mile and 1/16 to compare.

Throw the rest out.

Be damn hard to make an accurate speed figure for this one.
Yes, the 14th will help, hopefully. Projection on the 13th alone will be a tough read. I at least use pace too, and the pace was very fast.
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Smarty's Derby, where it poured just before the race and where they could prep only a little, was slow too?
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:14 PM   #9
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14th was pretty formful and the time makes a lot of sense compared to the Preakness, it will help.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:17 PM   #10
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We know AP pretty well by now. Should be easy to fudge a figure into the ballpark of where his figure belongs.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:27 PM   #11
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...run right after a monsoon.
So true. Unadjusted times mean nothing unless one believes that all tracks are identical under all possible conditions.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:30 PM   #12
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...run right after a monsoon.


Bee Bee Bee and Deputed Testimony both won it on a sloppy track in 1:55 and change.

No problem getting to the half in 46. These horses are bad finishers.

The stretch run at Big Sandy should be fun.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:34 PM   #13
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Pimlico's dirt track seemed to have a fairly pronounced tilt favouring frontrunners today.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:35 PM   #14
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Slowest in 60 years.
Ran one of the fastest opening quarter in the history of the race.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:49 PM   #15
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Bee Bee Bee and Deputed Testimony both won it on a sloppy track in 1:55 and change.

No problem getting to the half in 46. These horses are bad finishers.

The stretch run at Big Sandy should be fun.
Long time ago, tracks are much deeper now.
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