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03-14-2020, 08:44 PM
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#901
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PA: is your stance that we should carry on business as usual and see what happens?
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03-14-2020, 08:59 PM
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#902
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this virus may go away at some point this year, but it probably will be back again with a stronger strain next year.
there are scientist from Singapore that are 90% sure that this virus has come from bats that were cutup in a meat market in China and spread from there.
killing bats is never right, they kill insects and can keep you safe. this is our punishment for doing the wrong thing with these animals. i have never heard of anyone killing bats in this country...its really unthinkable.
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03-14-2020, 09:09 PM
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#903
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Hampshire
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Originally Posted by CUSEME
PA: is your stance that we should carry on business as usual and see what happens?
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I think that anyone who answers your first post ever should take that into consideration. Social distancing from all such posters until this virus peters out.
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03-14-2020, 09:25 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
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Originally Posted by CUSEME
PA: is your stance that we should carry on business as usual and see what happens?
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lol....you waited almost two years....AND THIS is what you come up with....lulz
But to humor you, NO, never said we should carry on BUSINESS AS USUAL.
Do you think we should burn down the world to avoid a fever and a cough (for MOST folks...per the CDC).
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03-14-2020, 10:05 PM
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Buckle Up
Join Date: Apr 2014
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This Shouldn't Surprise Anyone
Norwegian Cruise Line managers urged salespeople to spread falsehoods about coronavirus
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...cid=spartanntp
Norwegian Cruise Line managers urged their sales teams to share false information about the novel coronavirus to help land bookings with potential customers, including that the virus can’t affect people in “tropical temperatures,” leaked emails from a company whistleblower show.
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03-14-2020, 10:08 PM
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#906
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Join Date: Aug 2017
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
this virus may go away at some point this year, but it probably will be back again with a stronger strain next year.
there are scientist from Singapore that are 90% sure that this virus has come from bats that were cutup in a meat market in China and spread from there.
killing bats is never right, they kill insects and can keep you safe. this is our punishment for doing the wrong thing with these animals. i have never heard of anyone killing bats in this country...its really unthinkable.
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New diseases, viruses, pandemics will never end because oil drilling and fracking and all kinds of other exploration, man will be going into previously "virgin" remote areas and when you start digging stuff up, "things" come out of there.....like Pandora's Box. Microscopic organisms, other species, etc. Mother Nature always wins and she prefers not to be overly disturbed.
This is something we will have to either live with or reconcile in some manner.
You can blame china but next time it will be somewhere else. I got blood poisoning out in a pristine field when I received a rope burn from my dog's leash.....it had dragged along the ground and apparently there was "stuff' in the soil that got into my very MINOR rope burn and caused big problems over the next 42 hours. There are always new tick diseases coming out, etc.
This is just what it is to live on a planet where everything is "alive".
Wasn't there advisories out a few years ago to hunters who were killing deer, that there was some kind of thing that was dangerous when eviscerating them, etc.? In India they think we are barbaric because we murder cows.
I agree about the bats though. I did have to handle some when I worked at a wildlife rehab, and they scared me because so many of them have rabies. ditto, raccoons around here.
Last edited by clicknow; 03-14-2020 at 10:16 PM.
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03-14-2020, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
lol....you waited almost two years....AND THIS is what you come up with....lulz
But to humor you, NO, never said we should carry on BUSINESS AS USUAL.
Do you think we should burn down the world to avoid a fever and a cough (for MOST folks...per the CDC).
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Just trying to understand your position. You seem to be almost mocking the situation and suggesting any impending health care crisis will be due to healthy gullible people panic showing up at ERs.
So you're saying
1) do not close things down or express excessive concern about the disease
2) do not carry on business as usual
What is your alternative? Wash hands more? Head in sand might be a fun strategy for a couple more weeks I guess, until the majority of population becomes infected roughly simultaneously and 15-20% of cases require hospitalization? Or do you just not believe statistics coming out on this?
Last edited by CUSEME; 03-14-2020 at 10:28 PM.
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03-14-2020, 10:54 PM
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#908
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CUSEME
Just trying to understand your position. You seem to be almost mocking the situation and suggesting any impending health care crisis will be due to healthy gullible people panic showing up at ERs.
So you're saying
1) do not close things down or express excessive concern about the disease
2) do not carry on business as usual
What is your alternative? Wash hands more? Head in sand might be a fun strategy for a couple more weeks I guess, until the majority of population becomes infected roughly simultaneously and 15-20% of cases require hospitalization? Or do you just not believe statistics coming out on this?
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The majority of the population will be infected, of those infected 80% will be a systematic while a very small percentage of the 1/5 will die just like any other flu. I know, we turn the country upside down for ultra liberals right?. We manage this correctly and every country but our gets smoked. Our economy is sound and all we have to social distance ourselves from is historical ninnys.
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03-15-2020, 01:21 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Interesting to have NO Medical, non epidemiological, non physicians promoting this and that, when we have the expertise of the CDC and WHO as reference information.
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03-15-2020, 01:22 AM
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velocitician
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
this virus may go away at some point this year, but it probably will be back again with a stronger strain next year.
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THAT is exactly what happened to the 1918 flu bug
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03-15-2020, 01:28 AM
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#911
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,646
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CUSEME
Just trying to understand your position. You seem to be almost mocking the situation and suggesting any impending health care crisis will be due to healthy gullible people panic showing up at ERs.
So you're saying
1) do not close things down or express excessive concern about the disease
2) do not carry on business as usual
What is your alternative? Wash hands more? Head in sand might be a fun strategy for a couple more weeks I guess, until the majority of population becomes infected roughly simultaneously and 15-20% of cases require hospitalization? Or do you just not believe statistics coming out on this?
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I've said SO MUCH in this thread, it's a little mind boggling that you are seeking further clarification....go back and read my posts if you're that interested.
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03-15-2020, 02:35 AM
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Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 22,655
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal
Interesting to have NO Medical, non epidemiological, non physicians promoting this and that, when we have the expertise of the CDC and WHO as reference information.
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CDC made things much worse because 'they' had to run their approved tests. A group in Seattle decided to run tests anyway but were delayed a couple weeks by the government 'experts'.
China made things much worse by not allowing infectious disease experts in to help control. WHO was delayed a few weeks and the locals that were telling the world of the catastrophe 'disappeared'.
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03-15-2020, 02:44 AM
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Join Date: May 2011
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Damn....talk about pretzel logic!
The math tells us that, at present, the fatality rate for this is around 3%.
Given your prediction, we are looking at least 500 deaths in the near future.
Of course, if the team of "leaders" in Washington can ever organize
a proper distribution of tests, we might get a better handle on the
numbers infected.
Don't hold your breath on that one.......
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maybe you should use the 5% figure from Iran or the 7% from Italy. Or is world data better because the dimorats want free health care for the world?
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03-15-2020, 08:04 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: donkeys ride from ASD
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Winnipeg where I live has been shut down, schools, city hall, libraries, pools, the only things not shut down is city transit and casinos. All the elderly can still gather and mingle at the casino, the worst place for spreading germs. Unreal.
And our Prime Minister wont even speak to anybody, hes in hiding and has no plan at all.
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Last edited by woodtoo; 03-15-2020 at 08:06 AM.
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03-15-2020, 08:23 AM
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#915
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Houston , Tx.
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The biggest threat is the recent generations of spoiled Americans. Adversity isn't their strong suit, and going without will be hell to tolerate.
http://offgridsurvival.com/normalcybias
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