Adjusting BRIS Pace Figs

[eqitec]

If the BRIS Pace Figs for a horse's past performance at 6F on dirt were 92-88-96, how would you adjust these to project what they might be at other sprint, dirt distances?
5F
5 1/2F
6 1/2F
7F

Does it make any sense to try to do this?

[HUSKER55]

it is my understanding that a bris figure of 90 [or whatever] refers to a level across the distances. As far as I know they don't publish the time behind the figures.

JMHO

[Robert Goren]

BRIS pace figure are suppose to be across distances. use other distances at your own risk 2 point equal 1 length. Their pace numbers are about as good as their speed figures. They put you in the ball park most of the time, but I wouldn't split hairs with them.

[SpotPlays]

There is no set formula, but the BRIS Pace figures are inflated at both 5f and 5 1/2 furlongs

[fmolf]

At the shorter distances more horses go all out right from the gate.I believe this is why the figures appear to be inflated.I have found their figs to be fairly accurate and have been using bris ultimates for about 8 yrs now.

[eqitec]

Let me ask the question another way. Let's suppose the race I'm handicapping is at 6F. There are only two horses entered.

Horse #1 has one PP at 6F with BRIS Pace figs of 92-86-90.
Horse #2 has one PP at 7F with BRIS Pace figs of 92-86-84.

All other factors being equal, would you conclude that both horses will be neck 'n neck to the 2nd call, with Horse #1 outrunning Horse #2 to the wire?

Or....

Would you adjust Horse #2s Pace figs from its PP at 7F to 90-84-82? In which case Horse #1 would outrun Horse #2 to every call?

[Tom]

It is my understanding that the pace figs are the same at all distances so you can make direct comparisons, so that if 90 - 46.4 at a sprint, it will equal 46.4 at a route.

No data to back that up, just what I read.

[Robert Goren]

Originally Posted by eqitec

Let me ask the question another way. Let's suppose the race I'm handicapping is at 6F. There are only two horses entered.

Horse #1 has one PP at 6F with BRIS Pace figs of 92-86-90.
Horse #2 has one PP at 7F with BRIS Pace figs of 92-86-84.

All other factors being equal, would you conclude that both horses will be neck 'n neck to the 2nd call, with Horse #1 outrunning Horse #2 to the wire?

Or....

Would you adjust Horse #2s Pace figs from its PP at 7F to 90-84-82? In which case Horse #1 would outrun Horse #2 to every call?

I want number as close to the distance as possible even if I have to go back several race to get it. If this isn't possible then I would say the first scenario is the most likely. If anything, I would move up the 7F horse because it probably wasn't pushed as hard in the beginning to get its 92 E1. But you aren't get rich trying to out guess BRIS's numbers without a real reason to move them.